btw +15 str +15 cha is crazy expensive, I don't think even top tyrrs are using these since it's really really a lot of adena.. most top ppl use either +15 str +3 dex (legendary str lv 5) or +15 str +12 cha, but even those are expensive too.. pbb lv 4 or lv 5 STR dyes are good enough if you can..