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  1. FaeLenKz

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    Good evening everyone. :D

    I would like your opinion. I have 7 billion to spend exclusively on it, what would you recommend buying? :confused:

    Total focus on PvE. :Sneaky:

    I want to do kartia solo for example. :rolleyes:

    Thank you all. :p

    PS: The character has nothing. No jewelry, no dyes, no weapon and no armor. Lv 98 :Sick:
     
  2. SnoWyz

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    Get +6 set and weapon from event and keep ur adena(or buy qa normal + baium normal for crit dmg).
     
  3. comma

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    i did k95 solo (char lv 99) with r99 +6 full att (not bless), r99 fist bless +7 1xSA 300, venir +8, +3 STR hair accessory, blass zaken, coc stun pvp, coc nek pvp, 2x coc ring pvp, istina shirt, freia cloak, ... in aprox 35 ... 38 min
    now i do k95 solo (char lv. 100) with r99 +6 full att (not bless), r99 fist bless +7 1xSA 300, venir +8, +3 STR hair accessory, blass zaken, coc stun pvp, frinteza soul nek, istina war ring, octavis war ring, +10 shiny shirt, exalted cloak, hunter tali and some lv.2 brosh jewelry (rubi, emerald, garnet) ... in arox 22 ... 25 min
    - no dyes

    now u can check the prices and make ur choose ... probable a set and weap R95 ++ ... and go to shoping :)

    but my advice is to take 1 R95 set and 1 R95 weap event (for 1 months... u will be lv 99 then) ... and 2 or 3 R99 set and R99 weap event (dont open all , keepit and open 1/month) ... for 2 or 3 months -> 1st post from here https://4gameforum.com/threads/619180/page-2 ... make some calculation for time to know how many event set/weap to buy to have it for next months

    and u can buy only some epic jewelry now and keep ur adena for next 3...4 months
     
  4. St0ne

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    Problem with event wep is **** SA and no agu which at lvl 99 kama make u very weak. Stacking up crit.dmg stats would be good idea,bcoz event set is fine even upto 101lv.( if u manage to do it in 2 months)
     
  5. FaeLenKz

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    What is the best option to jewels?

    Ist + Oct Ring or Normal Queen Ant and Normal Baium?

    Earring?

    Set i will use from event like Snowys said. Weapon r ++ or r95?
     
  6. comma

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    Normal QA -> increases Accuracy, increases P. Critical Damage -> ????? ... i think lower then ...
    soul QA -> P./M. Accuracy +4, P./M. Critical Rate +20, P./M. Critical Damage +15%

    normal Baium -> increases Accuracy, P. Critical Damage, Atk. Spd. and Casting Spd -> ????? ... i think lower then ...
    soul Baium -> P./M. Accuracy +4, P./M. Critical Damage +15%, Atk. Spd./Casting Spd. +5%

    normal QA + Baium => Accuracy =???, P. Critical Damage = ???, Atk. Spd. and Casting Spd = ???

    and
    octavis warr -> Atk. Spd. +3%, P. Critical Rate +10, and P. Critical Damage +15%
    istina warr -> Atk. Spd. +2%, P. Critical Rate +10, and P. Critical Damage +10%
    istina w. + octavis w. = Atk. Spd +5%, P. Critical Rate +20, and P. Critical Damage +25%

    and normal QA/Baium have much lower M.Def then octavis/istina

    earring: istina normal + octavis warr ... or... Coc stun + bless zaken (like me) ... or combination of this

    weapon:
    - R ++ ... easy to put 2x SA on it ... and make bless ...for example+12 bless Apo have more P.Atk vs. +7 bless R99 less P.Atk (like mine) ...but too expensive Apo fist +12 on AH, more then 7 bil
    - R95 ... ??? idk
     
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    i had normal frintezza neck ... and i have frintezza soul now ... and if i remember correctly with soul tezza i have better skill cooldown when using BR ... in my calculation normal teza ~ -5% , soul tezza -10%
    and according with ur link, normal tezza and soul tezza have same skill cooldown ... 10%
    and again according with ur link, normal tezza damage reflec is 10% ... and l2wiki (and IG description) soul tezza reflect damage is 5%. in this case normal tezza is beter ... but all ppl want soul tezza ???

    so ... idk if ur link have good/correct values for normal jewelry with no values IG description

    i prefer to find a source where can find both, old normal jewelry specifications and new R soul/bless jewelry specifications. But if ur link it's a good source ... so be it ... go for normal QA/Baium ... I do not want to get into polemics
     
  9. FaeLenKz

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    Now i'm confusin..

    If Queen Ant gives:

    P: +21
    Resistance to Poison: +30%
    Poison Attack Success Rate: +30%
    Resistance to Hold: +20%
    Hold Attack Success Rate: 20%
    Accuracy: +2

    Crit Dmg: +15%

    And Baium Ring gives:

    MP: +21
    Resistance to Poison: 40%
    Poison Attack Success Rate: 40%
    Resistance to Hold: 30%
    Hold Attack Success Rate: 30%
    Accuracy: +2

    Crit Dmg: +15%
    Attack Speed: +4%
    Casting Speed: +4%

    How octs and inst rings are better? ofc m.def is much high, but attribs are 5% lower.. Baium and AQ gives 30% together.. Or im wrong?
     
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    So, a normal queen, normal baium, frintezza and event itens is ok for solo kartia?
     
  11. zauliuz

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    just try it.. as for me k95 was ~25mins.. ~12min on stairs, 10min other mobs.. and raid was 2 steel minds, now it's just ~25 seconds.
     
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    QA * Baium mostly are better because of Stun effect.
    They Gives together 30% crit dmg


    Imo if you go for cheap way and not playing PvP atm
    AQ soul + Octaavis Warrior would be good conf for you.

    Istina Gives +10% p crit dmg so dont even look at it.
    Not sure if normal aq/normal baium was giving 15, im almost sure was 10%/each
     
  13. SnoWyz

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    Normal baium and normal qa are 15% crit dmg each.
     
  14. FaeLenKz

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    And how about Tezza neck and Zaken earring?

    Soul or normal? Vampic from Zaken normal is the same from Soul?
     
  15. comma

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    zaken soul not exist
    is bless zaken
    zakne normal (S) give 20% stun/mental resist/atk
    bless zaken (S80) give 30% stun/menta resist/atk and dark resist +15

    u can find all info here: https://l2wiki.com/Main_Page

    can u tell me another source besides the one mentioned by St0ne ... where i can find this info
    (the source mentioned by St0ne is from 2010, and that man played on private server where is easy to modify the stats of everythink)
    or how did u discover that values are true for normal baium and qa

    because:
    on l2wiki.com, normal frintezza neck have exactly same description like in game:
    - MP +42
    - Sleep/Paralysis/Stun Resistance +15%
    - Sleep/Paralysis/Stun Attack Rate +15%
    - Poison/Bleed Resistance +25%
    - Poison /Bleed Attack Rate +25%
    - Decreases skill cooldown
    - Damage Reflect effect
    - Increases Dark Resistance.

    and frintezza soul neck:
    - MP +62
    - Speed +5
    - Poison/Bleed/Stun/Hold/Paralysis Atk./Def. Success Rate +20%
    - Skill Cooldown -10%
    - Damage Reflection +5%.

    and on St0ne's source normal frintezza neck:
    - Reflect Damage: 10%
    - Dark Resist: +15%
    - Resistance to Sleep/Paralysis/Shock: 15%
    - Sleep/Paralysis/Shock Attack Success Rate: 15%
    - Resistance to Poison: 25%
    - Poison Attack Success Rate: 25%
    - Bleed Resist: +50%
    - Re-use Delay Decrease: 10%

    and i am very sure about Skill Cooldown have bigger percent on Soul Tezza and less on normal tezza ... because I've owned them both ... and with same gear and same buff, only Necklace change with tezza soul have beter reuse time on BR with my iss

    i understand ppl spend few billions only for +5% more on stun ... but why is this big diference of prices:
    tezza normal 15% stun -vs- tezza soul 20% stun
    tezza normal ~40 milions -vd- tezza soul ~1.9 bil
    and
    normal zaken 20% stun -vs- bless zaken 30% stun
    normal zaken ~85 milions -vs- bless zaken 980 milions


    if u want, ask a gm to make experiment test with normal qa -vs- octavis war ... and for baium too
    ... and normal tezza -vs- soul tezza Skill Cooldown and reflect damage
    over and out (transmission over)
     
  16. FaeLenKz

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    OMG, now i really dont know what to do..

    I try find on internet and didnt find anything about the real % from QA and Baium NORMAL RING.

    I ask to GM by ticket and i had this..
    [​IMG]

    Sadly..
     

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    only way:
    buy a normal baium, normal QA and octavis war
    remove all ur gear from ur char and open ur char stats window
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    and look at Combat section, P. Critical stat value
    If u have for example p.crit 110 with no item on u
    1. put only octavis war ... and p.crit must become 110 +15% ... 110*1.15 = 126.5 => p.crit value must be 126 or 127
    2. remove octavis war ring and put normal baium ... if normal baium give +15% crit dmg, the values must same as with octavis => 126 or 127 p.Critical
    3. same with QA normal
    and then keep what u consider is best combination ... and sell the rest of them
    and then post the result here ... print screen
    same ... u can calculate for Atk. Spd. stat value ... and, imo, if normal baium/QA give +15% crit. dmg. and normal baium give +4% Atk.Spd. ... the best combination is Octavis war + normal Baium = Crit.rate +10 / Crit.Dmg +15% / Atk.spd 7% (is very good for evi) / and the rest of stats ... Casting Spd, etc

    as i told u about frintezza normal and soul one, i found some discussions here: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=270348 few years ago ... and as u, i dont know what to chooce ... and the only option was to buy both, make test, and sell the weakest one => i have tezza soul now.

    p.s.
    I do not wanna argue with anyone, but i can not have trust in a source where i found some mistakes, and where a big part of info are from private server source code
     
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  18. SnoWyz

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    It's p critical damage, not chance...
     
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    7b isnt alot to spend on char nowadays
    to "fully" gear a low char u need more but for what u have here goes:
    2 rings crit dmg (i suggest baium+octa warior cause both of them gives some atk speed which probably u gona miss to 1500) ->~1.5b for both
    ruby 3 -> 1.3b
    opal 3/4 -> ~400kk for 3 if lucky much less, if unlucky bit more.. 4 gona cost more but depends on luck can be ~1b
    neck octavis warior -> 200-500kk (depends on market and how fast u want it)
    earrings 2x coc special ones ( -> ~150-200kk each (stun+k/d or stun+mental depends on where u are exping and etc etc(also can be istina normal+coc stun for more stun and better mdef)
    so in total without set and wep u gona spend 4-4.5b which will keep u 2.5-3b for set and wep
    now those event sets are kinda good but not for all spots, to solo kalios on kalios rage u probably gona be running alot cause 0 wind resist on those sets makes kalios hit hard
    so 3b can make u +9/10 apo fists 2sa, with some more savings add augu (hope that its crit dmg 15% or pve dmg 10%)
    and keep colecting for normal set
    that will make u easy k95 solo (ofc iss is must have cause u will not have enough drain to sustain yourself without sonatas)
    after that can focus pearl/diamond 3/4lvl to have some pdef/mdef
    DYES is not necessary at start but u should consider it rather sooner than later, +4 str +2cha costs 40-60kk (depends on market) so 1.2-2b for full set (also can consider taking dyes and +7 apo fists (~1.2-1.5b) and not +9/10)
    and after that focus on set
     
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  20. FaeLenKz

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    Thank You.

    I will try it later and then post here.
     
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