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Looped macros removal

Discussion in 'News and Announcements' started by Yumi, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Mast3rplan

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    Removing a terrible thing like automacro is always good,if server will die for this it means it was dead also before.
    Too bad it's too late,having legal bot for so long time gave to many ppl the possibility of making billions,lvls,gear in this way and in my opinion it'a gap too big with a possible newcomer that cant use the same easy way and just unfair.
    I hate automacro with all my heart,but once they are in i think it should be forever,coming in a 3 years old server where ppl could bot freely for so long time..i dont know how many will do this,and since many parties rely on automacroed support,there will be need for new ppl.
     
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  2. 1Shadow9Fists

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    L2 appetite for resources is vast, its based on high number population or at least some decent number of people farming.
    Who is farming now? Market is empty, locations are empty, last hit was made with this stupid and out of time announcement ... Innova just want to kill Skelth and forget about it.
     
  3. Overtaken

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    That's perfect! Was the excuse for people start slacking and the others in party borring because of people slacking, was excuse for the crazy whatever market when u was asking someone about the price and the answer was just make loop party.Hell not all in server have loop partys. also is good for those guys who cry about raids killers, with that change is much harder break the raid shields with those tyrants macro party.Is 101% good for Active people change and benefit for server!
     
  4. Miraster

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    I had my doubts to start playing here on skelth, a 3 years old server, but what the heck it was only 2€. I expected low population in low level areas and I was rigth there almost nobody so you can't make parties or hunt low raidboss forcing you solo all the way untill high levels.
    Well it's ok I can make use of that tool loop macros to catch people fast enough son maybe I can start enjoying with people this great game but you now after years of people using it and making billions of mats and adena you remove it from server making me as newcomer and where people are at high levels probably a tedious and alone travel that I'll stop playing eventualy on this server. I know nobody will care about it but I hope you enjoy it while last.
     
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  5. Easly

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    It is unbelievable how easily ppl get discouraged by very little things.
    It is true that this macro loop thing was on from the start (or whatever), but if they decided to remove it there is a reason

    I like to think that they did it to make a healthier server, and remove this "legal" bots
    and take note that, by doing this they probably lost a good chunk of money (as I don't know how many loopers will continue to play all their boxes without macro loop)

    I know, I'm noone to say this, but what is the point in playing a game when you just leave it alone doing his things over and over...
    or when you play alone with all your boxes instead of grouping with your friends?
    Just take this game as it is.. enjoy it, without this loops or whatsoever
     
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  6. Overtaken

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    HAHAHA Its amazing how people cry and talk like they care for newcomes or for server and how unfair is, the old active players who play hours for some event items and the macro partys get x313132 times more ,that mean epics and adena stuff and events is only for those who have loop party? AHAHA if u dont like be active and play the game stop cry and find something more easy to play!
     
  7. sobek

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    GM what was the result of the survey? Please, do not lie - Innova scare awanser?
     
  8. MrOurk

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    That's actually good, maybe prices for materials like animal bone won't be 85-100 adena anymore and it will reach certain value, allowing people to make more spoilers as boxed chars and make some adena, right now if you get 150-200 animal bone / hour at the current price you barely make 9k adena/h in a low level area, I remember first time I played classic I was selling them way higher price and managing to buy gear from there, so it's actually good in my opinion that people will be able to not loop for those anymore, we will have to wait and see I guess.
     
  9. AquaMarine

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    mb ppl will start lf live players instead of loop boxes or alts , and yes i think market mats price will be more real , not as it is atm when you can almost sell to npc instead on market lol
     
  10. sobek

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    LOOP MACRO Please, Innova, why did you delay the result of the questionnaire? Why are you afraid to provide reliable information? Why was the survey and how are you doing what you want?
     
  11. Mbaka

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    I'm ok with macro removal but I would really like to see the results of the pool ... make the things transparent for the community

    @Yumi
     
  12. Ydwros

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    The Great reason MOST people go play NA or RU classic is because these severs are new.. just to play during hyped moments and have fun with healthy antagonism until this end in around 6 months. Then the hype will be gone, Healthy antagonism NO More and people will go to the most stable entertaining experience. Some people play just to "own the server" were others enjoy everyday their current status in game. and when i mean play i mean play not watching porn while having macros on the background. The hardcore players are not those who stay on 24/7 and farm non stop trying get their hands on loot, these are usually the Pros, The hardcore players are those who eat **** and d1e and next moment stand up and they r shining clean, if you know what i mean/. I would say more but deep down you all know pretty much, think about when you are in toilet.
     
  13. AmIPRO

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    Good Job. Really glad that you remove that "legal bot" with which all lazy B*stards makes profit while afk.
    You hit them in the place where hurts most, this is the reason so much QQers.

    For the people who enjoying the game and dont trying to make money from the game. This step is tottaly worth it.

    The ppl who wanna make their afk farm, they will find ways ( its not impossible ).
    So i dont get why is all this negative commentars ? You people, now need find another people to play with ? :D


    ONCE AGAIN.
    LOOPED MACROS SUX !

    And yes , we play now NA becuse its first days Hype. But once the hype ends, im coming back.

    NA its f2p they said. But the ammount of money spend there from ppl, is like the $$ Innova makes for 5 years.

    Probably first month more than 2-3 k gold packages sold ( 30 $ each ) and mb 5k VIPs x 5-40 $ each.
     
  14. 1Shadow9Fists

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    That ... just your opinion man.
    You all assume its worth it, but any of you have any proof thats for best of the server?

    Coz from my pov Innova just do what they please, leaving the way ru farmers farm (multi windows, w-e, you watch the video in youtube) open, but close the way normal players can farm without N-programs.
    I invest so much time to learn how to use macros, where and hunt for best results. Was fun, was profitable, I didnt have macro train, there was no need. Its way more fun and interesting than fishing 20 of 24 hours.
    Macros help me be LESS stressed about the game. If you dont realize it, L2 is hell a lot stressful game.

    So why we have macros in first place? Lets Innova remove them. And forbid the stupid multi-windows ****. Forbid multi-accounting (only 1 acc per human), ban acc sharing ... you want it right? Lets all go further or more precise - go back in time. Lets forbid wheels, fire, electricity, progress in general ... because this is not how we was build to live on this planet.

    Denying macro loops because they are new and ergo bad for gameplay is same as crying vs progress. How many of you want to live in word where in order to eat you need to go hunt and kill something?
     
  15. Eyon00

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    Chill, you wont solve world hunger with macro loops guy.
     
  16. AmIPRO

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    I think removing brings more positives , than negatives.
    Actually now, ppl need to make party with another ppl, instead of putting their whole afk pt, and watching movie or cleaning the house while afk farming.
     
  17. Easly

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    This is a way to see and use macro loop, and I may agree that having this kind of tool may make the game less stressful...
    But you should also agree with me that, as a classic server, it has to be stressful... it has already a lot of "helping" tools (like missions and whatnot)... and macro loop seems to be an overkill.

    I do care about the fact that maybe they should leave those for ppl like you (and me) that use them to enjoy the game more;
    but it is something that, put simple, made botting legal; and in a way discouraged ppl from playing together (as they could solo loop whatever they want).

    This comparison makes no sense.
    It is like saying that it would be ok for you if a bot (or a macro loop) could handle your work and you would be ok to be fired, because this it the way things should evolve.
    There are things that have a good place in the environment and time they are used/created; but even IRL there are things that are left behind because are not what we need at the moment (or in the defined environment).
    To sum it up (TLDR):
    Doing this way they are making botting illegal again, as it should have ever been;
    so, even if you are going to loose your stress reliever, you should be more than happy for this change, as it will make the server a better place for every one
    (or at least forces who wants to "macro loop" (aka bot) to use thridy part programs, and thus probably being banned)
     
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  18. ooaris

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    1shadow9fists also wanted macros to trigger other macros.
    His play style is quite obvious ...
     
  19. mpampis

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    i just ordered pizza and waiting for next reply, this thread is better than watching a movie...
     
  20. Yech .

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    BB loop, welcome BOT's