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WARLOCK - questions about class and pet usage

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Italianomedio, Nov 14, 2018.

  1. Italianomedio

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    Hello.
    I am levelling a WLK, in few days i will ding 40.
    Looking at:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...qK1GZKLh4Fy4lgl_WyX0qu6Gro/edit#gid=271923500
    i saw that several stat are similar for Kai and Kat.
    Obvious Kai is more melee oriented.

    After i spoke with several Skelth hig lvl summoner I start to think about the various WLK playstyle....

    Plz, correct all my fault:

    1) NUKER
    WLK dont have AOE after 40 but have single nuke.
    GEAR: robe + mage staff
    PET: Kat (that help a little in hit but mostly recharge)
    STYLE = nuker with infinite mana
    TRANSFER PAIN ACTIVE
    CONSUMALE: BSSC, beastSpiritShots for recharge efficiency, Spirit Ore only at resummon

    2) MELEE with WLK primary DPS. PET secondary
    GEAR: light + shield + dagger or sword
    PET: Kai
    I hit (eventually first hit with nuke) primary with Kai supporting me
    STYLE = WLK primary melee, pet secondary melee
    TRANSER PAIN ACTIVE
    CONSUMALE: SSC, BEASTSOT, SpiritOre for recharge with Kat when need

    3) MELEE with PET primary DPS, WLK secondary
    GEAR: robe + shield + dagger or sword
    PET: Kai
    Kai hit and WLK support it with hit and healing
    I heal Kai when need
    I summon Kat only for recharge mana (used for heal Kai)
    STYLE = Pet primary melee, char secondary melee, i am the pet's healer
    TRANSER PAIN NOT ACTIVE
    CONSUMALE: SSC, BSSC, SpiritOre for recharge with Kat when need

    4) MELEE with PET, WLK assistance
    GEAR: robe + any magic weapon
    PET: Kai
    Kai hit and WLK support with healing
    The WLK job is heal Kai
    I summon Kat only for recharge mana (used for heal Kai)
    STYLE = Pet primary melee, i am the pet's healer
    TRANSER PAIN NOT ACTIVE
    CONSUMALE: BeastSHOT, BSSC, SpiritOre for recharge with Kat when need

    Sorry for all mistake that surely i made
     
  2. Paljar

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    warlocks can pobably answe you better, but here are my 2cents:

    In classic you will be very short of SP, especially since last patch with the new daily missions. So you only want 1 pet and 1 armor mastery.

    Pet choice:
    For pet the choice is kat (if you rly like the solo/duo melee playstyle and are stubborn you can go kai)

    Reasons:
    melee playstyle:
    kat has slightly lower patk as kai, but he still has enough patk to play melee in case you want to play melee and as advantage over kai, you willl have infinite mana to heal him/yourself/your partymembers. Enchanted valley for example is good spot to play solo/duo melee or mage/melee combo.

    mage playstyle:
    kat is obvious choice, and until 52 you will most likely play as mage, since there are not many good melee zones until that lvl and also no good melee buffs yet (haste2)

    healer style:
    You forgot this playstyle in your opening post, but i know multiple summoners that lvled up as healer lvl 52 > 77 (or even from 40+ in cruma tower). Basically you will use your low lvl heals to heal your partymembers and use your kat for infinite mana. At these lvls 1 healer with infinite mana is just perfect. The more matk you have at your weapon the stronger your heals will be, also you can get an aeore rune to get even stronger heals.
    lvl 52>60: toi 1-3 parties
    lvl 60>70: cata of forbidden path parties
    lvl 70>77: cata of witch parties

    You have a lot to offer as healer. If your party needs lots of heals then you focus on that, if your party needs more damage then you assist with your kat, if your party needs more mobs then you can use your nuke to pull more mobs to melee range.

    Armor choice:

    This is bit harder, since you dont really need mana, blue wolf light seems the most logic choice mid game and endgame. but karmian robe is probably the prefered early game. I would be carefull not to put to much SP into robe mastery. Maybe summoners transition back into dc robe or something very lategame. I dont know, bw light seems better to me. If you search through this section you will find some summoner guides that might answer you better about armor choice.
     
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  3. Italianomedio

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    I forgot healer style and, indeed, seem really good because i like heal ppl.
    Thank you for advise

    About armor... I really want to use robe if possible because i think that summoner is a nuker archetype and i want ti try respect that way of play
     
  4. Ptitlaby

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    As Paljar said, your main issue will be SP. If you even use CA scrolls, you won't have enough SP for leveling up one pet at the same level as you are.

    My two cents :

    - Pet Spiritshots won't increase Recharge efficiency.
    - Playing nuker after lvl 52 is much slower than going melee.
    - When going Melee, always send your pet attack first and make it tanks. You can heal your pet for a lot per cast. You can't heal yourself for a lot per cast
    - Pet Soulshot / Spiritshots are extremely expensive. Be sure to count on average how many adena you will drop and if you can afford it
    - BW light is the best armor ever for any summoner. However that's just a recommandation, feel free to play as you want :)
     
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  5. Italianomedio

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    Thank you, some question:

    1) what is CA scroll?

    2) If I dont have problem to exp slowly can i think to stay nuker after 52 or the problem is that there arnt enough spot for to nuke good with a summoner after 52?

    2 bis) And about beastss, exping in nuke style is more adena saving then melee?

    3) light armor passive is a compensation of the wizard base skill already acquired at lvl 1 (mana recovery, magical's movement, spellcraft)?

    3 bis) in that case is possible to think go melee with BW or Avadon robe?
    Nov 14, 2018
    @Ptitlaby
    After all these information i can try correct my first post with more common (or more used) WLK playstyle :)
     
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  6. Italianomedio

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    After all advices i upgrade the WLK playstyles after 40.
    In Bold what i have to understand

    1) NUKER (beware that it's slower then Melee after 52) (SOLO/MAGE PT)
    ARMOR: robe
    WEAPON: mage good weapon
    PET: Kat (that can help a little hitting your target)
    STYLE: nuker with infinite mana
    TRANSFER PAIN ACTIVE
    CONSUMABLE: bspsC (or B), Spirit Ore for resummon Kat

    2) MELEE with KAT primary DPS (SOLO/MELEE PT)
    ARMOR: robe or BW light after 52 (+ Shield)
    WEAPON: dagger or sword or dual
    PET: Kat
    STYLE: pet hit and WLK support it with hit and healing
    TRANSER PAIN NOT ACTIVE
    CONSUMALE: beastSS, SSC, BSSC

    2bis) MELEE WITH KAI primary DPS (SOLO/MELEE PT)
    Same of 2 with different pet.
    Only if you have enough SP for level both pet and enough adena for Spirit Ore you can:
    - use KAI for melee
    - when mana for heal pet falling down summon KAT and recharge

    2tris) MELEE WITH ONLY PET (SOLO)
    Kat or Kai, WLK only think about pet healing and use robe+staff.
    NOWAY, UNUSEFUL?
    I ask only because I enjoy that style


    3) HEALER (MELEE PARTY)
    GEAR: as nuker style
    PET: Kat
    STYLE = Pet help tank or made tank, WLK heal Kat and other partymates
    TRANSER PAIN NOT ACTIVE
    CONSUMALE: BeastSHOT, BSSC, SpiritOre for recharge with Kat when need
     
  7. Ptitlaby

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    CA stands for Clan Arena. It's an instance you can do one a week (resets wednesday at 6.30) with your clan, giving XP scrolls are rewards. Those XP rewards are great, but you don't get any SP. You can end up lvl 76 with level 40 skills, which won't work

    You are free to try it of course ! There should be some areas where you can nuke

    Depends of the spot, and how you xp really. For example I know that xping with pet soulshots in Enchanted Valley I can make a profit. Xping as nuker there makes me loose a lot of money

    It's not only a compensation, it gives you a bit more pdef / mdef. The light armor by itself has more pdef, making you tankier

    You will miss pdef I believe and HP. Your stats may just be overall worse than with a BW light
     
  8. Italianomedio

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    DAMN
    I discover that ES Recharger Pony Speed is 160, WLK Recharger Cat Speed is 120...
    Then in Melee is mandatory use Kai XD, i have to exp both cat and use S.Ore for resummon... Is not good... Need to reroll ES...
    Do I wrong class?
     
  9. Italianomedio

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  11. Czesio

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    Hey there,
    What are the advantages of Warlock over Phantom Summoner in Skelth reality in terms of solo/group/mass viability? I love cats(am a cat owner my self) but can’t bear the looks of human mystic classes, so I think of starting PS, but see many ppl take interest in Warlocks.

    I’ve checked one PS guide here on forum, but it was kind of inconclusive.

    I’m currently running spoiler+crafter+pp to prepare for summoner start, still can’t decide which one to pick from these 2

    Thanks in advance for any tips
     
  12. 1Shadow9Fists

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    77 lvl pet, that give your party bonus crt rate and power. Overall good char for solo, yes SOLO and can fit as healer or dd in any group, aoe or single target.
    PS problem is that he lack infinity mana and dont get something useful at end game (for clan, CP or you in general). Thats are my impressions from summoner classes.

    Still dark elf is dark elf, always look cooler than humans :p
     
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  13. Italianomedio

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    :Geek:
     
  14. Aralthann

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    Concerning playing warlock as nuker (at least from 40 to 52 approx as I understood from previous discussions): I'm playing like this at the moment but each 3/4 mins, i need to spend 3/4 mins as well to refill my cat with servitor recharge and myself in order to be both full and farm again.
    Is it the best way if it's solo farming?
    I first thought i needed to resummon a new cat (instead of refill of mana with servitor recharge) but realized that it cost too much.
    Thanks for your insights :)
     
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  15. Italianomedio

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    Levellign a WLK as you mate (he is 44 now) i understand that WLk isnt a cheper class :)
    But... You have to wait probably higher lvl when mobs drop more adena adn Beastss continue cost 36 adena each :-D
     
  16. Czesio

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    Did you try to switch to meele while waiting for MP regen?
     
  17. Italianomedio

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    Eventually we can try a session togheter
    Dont worry about Buff, i have PP 56
     
  18. JaimeLannister

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    Solo Kai+Staff.
    Party Staff+Heal.
    Combo variant :}
     
  19. Italianomedio

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    Thank you
    ATM i am 45 and:
    1) solo:
    Kai and CD+3Othell6 and Shield and Karmian
    or
    Kai and TopCstaff+3ISS6 and Karmian
    2) party:
    .... I really want to find a party...
     
  20. Copeland

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    You can try making one, try on discord, but people level through the 50's so fast. When exp slows down mid 60's you'll find people willing to party. It's too easy too solo to 60 and to hard to solo after 65. Especially now with that prophet transform.
     
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