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Refine items!

Discussion in 'Team Blog' started by Mehashefa, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. Shayariel

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    sry, this might have been missleading. my first sentence was an answer to Ambition4l:
    after that follows my conclusion about those 67% normal rates and the event rates
     
  2. Endstation

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    I used this weapon upgrade simulator.
    Here are my results of upgrading 1000 Lvl 3 weapons (from + 0 on) with the Whitesmith skill and Job lvl 70. (my finger is still hurting... :confused: ):
     

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  3. Pollux84

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    Wow... 1000 Lv3 weapons including a Lv99/70 WS for ONE at +9.
    That is pretty damn motivating! Not.
     
  4. Alfanz

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    It's Math,
    Normal Rates From 0 to +10 the chance of a weapon lvl3 is
    +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +10
    0,67x0,67x0,67x0,67x0,67x0,40x0,33x0,13x0,13x0,13 = 0,00003% Lol 1 in 3million

    You get 10.000 weapons to the NPC, only 6700 pass to +1, after that you keep cutting. It's crazy numbers.
     
  5. MatheusQuag

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    785 Weapons were lost between +1 to +5.

    If the rates were 100% in this range of over (+1~+5) you would get 785 more tries for the over +6.... Literally insane HAHAHAH
     
  6. Rodegarth

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    Ís this a joke? o_O I hope it is, it seems kinda crazy with that result...:confused:
     
  7. Endstation

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    Sorry. But that's what you'll be dealing with... o_O
     
  8. VanHagen

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    So - isn't it just "meaningless"? ... Everybody has the same low chances (kinda) to do a +9 or +10 weapon. So you're not falling back behind others. And for the few lucky guys it's ******* awesome + they can earn a lot of zeny with upgraded weapons. (or lose)
     
  9. Alfanz

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    A +10 weapon will be worth billions lol.
    Even a simple +4 will be worth a lot.
     
  10. Ambition4l

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    Dont forget, we are getting upgrade events. So its not too big of a deal.
     
  11. Endstation

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    I'm sure 4game will earn billions only with enriched ori/elu...:cool:
     
  12. Pollux84

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    I don't care too much about it, actually.
    You can look at this from different angles. One is what VanHagen said, we all have the same chance. I think +7 is pretty damn high and most will be
    pleased with or aiming at that. And there is even three higher levels to get, which makes the weapon extremely rare and valuable. I like that.
    There will be refinement events and one should definitely wait for them when trying to refine like a Stunner [2] (which is rare and expensive to get to begin with).

    The other is that we can buy enriched ores for real money. Combined with an event, this is the way to go with expensive weapons to get the highest chance.
    But of course this is P2W and I can understand that some people will dislike it. I dislike P2W elements as well. But if you keep spending money on a low level
    (if you don't have much money or don't want to spend too much), this is acceptable imo. You will get your +7 weapon sooner or later this way.
     
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  13. Shayariel

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    On the other hand, you can PLAY2WIN and buy over-upped stuff from PAY2WIN ppl ;)
    Depends on your play style, characters, abilities, knowledge though...