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  1. RRRRAT

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    so
    whats up?

    u guys can asked here about essence. but careful, some questions will remain unanswered


    sorr for google translate
    from Russia with love)
     
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  2. goduole

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    How much u need to spend to be competetive?:s
     
  3. RRRRAT

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    of course it depends a lot on your character's class
    but if the rumors about the game store are confirmed and at the start of European servers the assortment of the store will be identical to the store on the release of Russian servers - at the beginning we will have a modest shopping list for playing the “free” game

    so i can give a more complete forecast if you ask me about money in the context of a game class

    the main thing from the game store, which will have to be given special attention, is the Aden talisman, which is very important to improve to the 7th level. the price in Russia of one talisman is approximately $ 0.5. some players received level 7 on the first try, others were less fortunate and they spent $ 300,600 on this
     
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    So what you're saying is that all the P2W items will be inside the store since the start? Brooches, talismans and other items?

    Is is true that you can buy even normal items such as armors and weapons?

    What about the set effects? What's that thing i saw with players wearing mixed sets to get several boosts?

    How many boxes can one log, eventually?

    Debuffs have been nerfed for real? Like stun shot having 60 seconds of delay? Do they get a lesser CD with boosts or is a fixed timer?

    The Death Knights are Essence or Classic?
     
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  5. Deedly

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    I've heard that Sworsinger and BladeDancer don't work, Its true?​
     
  6. xHaseo

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    I can "confirm" that for you, but it's not that "they don't work". BD and SWS are no longer supports, they are "off-tanks/dps". They mantain their heavy mastery but also got a few new skills like Majestic (the tank skill) and D/S are not "personal". They also learn a few more damage skills.

    They are, in the essence, the "DD" heavy-mastered class that elfs and dark elfs never had.
    Sep 10, 2019
    Oh yeah, and about classes, so, daggers still have Shadow step or it got removed? Cause in the RU wiki it says "warp 200 unit backwards"...so daggers lost shadow step and got a sort of "blink" instead?
     
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    hero give hero skill weapon and cloak?
     
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    How much crit rate does Othel rune lv.1 give? or are there any differences in runes?
     
  11. RRRRAT

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    I can’t say anything for sure about this. We must wait for information from the Innova.
    But rumors say that it will be identical to the Russian start. And the store too. If the dynamics of installing content patches and putting various things into the store’s assortment are similar - any Russian player who has stayed in the game at least 3-4 months after the start will be a prophet for players of the euro version)
    So, if everything repeats itself as in the movie "Groundhog Day" - at the start you will need to pay out a small amount of money compared to what expenses will be later.

    I want to say that even with small investments (or without them at all), any player will be able to spend time comfortably and get a lot of fun and emotions from playing the game for about six months. While the servers will be seething with activity, while they will have a lively market and economy, until abnormal players with oe gear appear.

    These professions will no longer be in demand in groups. Songs and dances have become individual enhancements. Like all buffs in the game. And they are significantly changed. These professions have become the most individually oriented. They are not needed at all. But it’s fun to play for them. At least the sword singer is almost indestructible 1 versus 1. I played with swordsinger in my group. And he spent a lot of money on the game. Immortal guy)
    In general, these professions, as well as the WC and Prophet, became an ideal choice for a solo game. In addition to the good old summoners.

    yeah. a jump with a chance to impose a 30% slowdown on the target.

    )))00)

    runes have changed. 25. at level 4 - 43. at level 10 - 74. at the maximum level 15 - 84.
    we were shocked too)
    Sep 11, 2019
    Guys, ask more questions. We were at the start like blind kittens. At least some, including me (im streamer), tried to play a little in the Japanese version of the game in order to at least understand a little what to deal with. Of course, this was not enough to learn all the subtleties and tricks. We understood quite a bit. We translated Korean Wikipedia on the game, caught rare Korean videos on YouTube. We tried to get ready somehow. Now you have the opportunity to get all this knowledge and experience.
     
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  12. Eyon00

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    Nice info. Keep it going.
     
  13. RRRRAT

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    C-grade. Any weapon+7, some armor+4. After put kamael race in to the game B-grade too. a little after that - temporary lootboxes with A grade. after: rework craft system and relise "random casino" in game with a chance to get anything. I know how it all sounds. but all this will be added gradually, so you will have time to get used to and adapt.

    after one of the content patches, class B and class A things were changed a lot. yes, the combo sets are back.

    did not understand what kind of boxes are you talking about? clearer please

    again) after one of the content patches. fear, stun, silence, sleep - duration 3 seconds. cooldown 20. warlord's long-range stun 60 cd. sad. i play this class
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    essence
     
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  14. xHaseo

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    For boxes i mean client at the same time...can i log in like 5 toons at the same time or i'll be locked to 1 or 2? Cause as far as i can see, the game will be f2p, and pts are made of 5 players, meaning that if i can log 5 boxes at the same time, i can exp my own "full pt".

    As for the Daggers, nice **** :D the class is already half-dead due to the changes on target-cancel skills, removing their shadow step is the last step to make'em totally useless. Pretty sad tho, they gave daggers a passive buffs which increase blow land rate, it could have been a huge boost.

    Yeah, the fact that the game will be heavy p2w is a well-know thing, what *i* do care about is : how long will it take? You said that even with small money (how much is that? we're gonna have euros so...) a player can enjoy the game for 6 months, so you want to say that for 6 months the p2w will be kinda basic (like +4 items C grade in the store, some boosts and maybe 1 or 2 p2w items) and after that, the apocalypse?

    The debuff modification is actually AWESOME 'cause it makes classes way less OP...it was really stupid to get chars to stun-lock you or fear-lock. Now we can finally PvP against any class.

    Also, the othell rune was nerfed...which makes sense since it was, for some reason, broken OP for fighters. This also means tho, that Archers will have quite a nerf since they wont cap crt rate...for now. Interesting, very interesting.

    About the set effects, i mean, how does it work? Cause i saw players wearing like 5 different parts of armors or 4...so i actually need just ONE part of armor to get the FULL bonus? Bonuses were modified or they're the same?

    Ofc, most of this changes are patches added way later than release...but i want to know 'cause i don't want to end up rerolling and being a "No-main" player like in NA server...As far as i can see tho, Archers and Nukers are still the best option. Even tho their range is modified from 900 to 700 later on.
     
  15. wtfred

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    What would be a good trio for pvp in essence?

    And if full party are now 5 people, what is the composition of optimised full party?

    Is is worth to be in party for exp, or solo will be better?

    What are the "top" solo pve classes? "top" pvp classes?
     
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  16. RRRRAT

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    we had one client available at the start, in a month and a half we got the opportunity to launch two clients at the same time. still

    In essence, daggers are perhaps the weakest class. They can cut out magicians, against other opponents - it will lose.

    grade C kit cost $ 6,8. relax.

    I am not sure of your readiness for a thorough game. you all.
    when I say that you can do without investing money at all, I’m talking about players in Russia who used 2-3+ computers, carefully monitored the market, tried to trade profitably, and farm Adena with more expensive classes. A lot of everything. but even if you don’t get so sophisticated, you can still understand whether you can play this game or not just by trying. comparing your successes and failures with other players.
    tell it to the overlords with their seal for 2 minutes. :104:

    This is probably the most popular class. Archers became like physical nukers. double shots and other skills are used in fractions of a second.

    but magicians, on the contrary, were in complete decline. at the start there were a lot of them, now the all server knows the living and playing magicians, because they can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

    B-grade: the more equipment from the kit - the more passive properties.
    Armor A grade - each item has its own specific properties. example:
    Tallum heavy Helm:
    CON +1 Limit of weight +1500 Mag. Defense +10 Max. MP +50 Atk. + 4% HP Recovery Bonus + 5.5%
    Tallum heavy gloves:
    STR +1 Weight Limit +1000 Mage Defense +10 Max. HP +50 Atk. Spd + 8% Physical Defense +10

    You get the properties right away, you don’t need to combine equipment from one set. Outfitting for the body gives some kind of effect, such as resistance to stunning 60% (MJ heavy armor). for example, magic gloves give 15% magic speed. they are only one.

    once we wanted to know. and in general we knew where to get. the only question is to what stage everyone has enough patience.))

    Unfortunately, this is almost independent of class, but of equipment. :68:


    DD+DD+Tank+EE+BP


    Elder Eve has inadequate skills like mass cleansing + short buff

    the problem is that the essence will not be given to players who will good play in the group (clan) - the game will not give you the opportunity to reveal the group potential. any clan wars and battles=a primitive format crowd against crowd.
    there are no motivation tools in the game. encouraging or punishing players from managers (party and clan leaders). at some point the clan game will die. everything can be obtained for money. except for epic jewelry. but it is not unique due to various events and extremely scanty chances of falling out of various lootboxes. we have people who have never given the best of 150% and have been to epic bosses a couple of times in six months. while they have 1-2-3-4 epic. when cheap lootboxes were introduced into the game for two weeks with the opportunity to get A-grade items - they killed the clans' advantage, 3-4 months of the pharmacy for scheduling bosses 75+ depreciated by 60% in two days. these items were unseal. items for this action be obtained from Zaken. and very very rarely from the clan arena
     
  17. akaaWins

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    @RRRRAT Thank you very much for the answers.

    Which class/race will be strongest in pvp/pve at server start (with C grade +7/4)? Which class will be strongest after few updates?

    Approximately, how many euro/rubels do you have to invest to be arround the top?

    How's the buff system? You have some item with buffs or do u run on solo buffs only?
     
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    RAT about healers, what you have to say? Bishop or ee? Pros and cons. Thanks for the help
     
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    Elemental Master is the strongest at the start of the server and in the next updates,and he requires the least cash investment
    In L2e, the NPC has a buff that lasts seven
    hours.
     
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    How are the Kamaels? Farming and PvP?