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Bring Evolutionary Road Back.

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Geo96, Jun 6, 2013.

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Want Evo Road back in game?

  1. Absolutely

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  2. No way, I am already 90+ so I don't care

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  1. jrch2k10

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    well, im not sure that many of you actually checked the new system drop table, but it is insane unless your server have a population of 10 thousand active spoilers and all raids 90+ spawn every hour, i mean take for example im 95 right now so in maybe a month or two[i have a life so can't play 18h day] ill need to start looking stuff for r99 but then i go and check drop tables and see stuff like this:

    eternal breastplate ingredient 2.961% — 3.605% from tebot open field raid boss[fix me if im wrong] that every clan will farm the next nanosecond it spawn[in not in a big clan like most ppl] <- so this will take me ages or big adenas when big clan feel like sell them

    then the next shoot in the chest
    recipe: eternal breastplate (60%) 0.5% — 1% nerva chief turakan <- nice ill make my dual 99 and the other subs 80 in five chars before a rec and ofc the the other lvl 4 material that only drop from raids at 0.001%

    so, ok will never be able to craft r99[and i expect even hardcore farmers to give up at some point], then lets check the drops of full items maybe im luckier? no too lucky it seems 5% chance[the biggest chance i found for any r99 piece] all in raids that require more than 5pts r99 to which nobody will give me party cuz i have r95 grade items[like asking in 95 party for octavis, where ppl insulting you for pm them you been 95], so again ill probably be in r95 gear until december and weapons well i even worse and 2h magic blunts for some reason even worser.

    ok so lets check oly items since i got noble, maybe this is the escape route? nope, i need to beat to hero every oly farmer top r99 +++ for six months in a row and farm a fortress/siege every hour non stop for another 3 months to get 1 piece.

    conclusion i need to put 120 elements in my r95[i was saving them for r99] and stick to it until episodeon or later chronicle because is absoletely insane to get gear now[same apply for r90 ppl trying to get r95].

    ofc you could say lol buy r99 before update omg noob, well i don't piss adenas or have a billion adenas as pocket cash you know.

    btw manor is not set and the exchange of corroded material is quite expensive if you take into consideration all the upgrade paths to lvl4/5.

    so lets wait until episodeon
     
  2. Sweetnight

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    i really understand you man, and agree with you, but why in this thread? :p
     
  3. eleria

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    i had to create a new character because mine had no equipment (lvl 85, had temporary s80 one year back). i leveled till the steel door coins quests, went to look for how much coins i could get till 85... i was shocked that with all the coins you get and counting a few repeatable quests i could only get an s-grade weapon and what... a glove ?

    go to hell ncsoft!
    i'm not going to torture myself getting to 85 with c or b-grade weapon no no no !
    and even if i did, then what? have no money to buy r-grade... and no s-grade in auction because nobody knows where to spoil the required mats... pfffff !
     
  4. walkingcat

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    people who like lineage2, they will come and play, just need to understand that this is official x1 server, so it should be impossible to make 1-85 in few days, and how someone said, developers want to bring back some difficulties on 1-85 levels, becouse of too much qq'iers about god became easssyy.
    maybe it became harder 1-85 after lindvior, but its easier 85-99 now.
     
  5. eleria

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    difficulty is one thing, but impossibility to get a - s - s80 grade weapons and armor is a problem

    until something is done to be able to get equipments at least one grade below what's needed, i rather play another game :(
     
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  6. Zebedin

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    and thats what im talking about
    you lose customers if game is not newbie friendly

    i vote for evo road back, just to let more newbie play or just try this game
     
  7. Walkirye

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    since there is no way to craft (already not) s-s80 with a rentable method, i dont think that ppl willl re-roll or make and a tyrr maestro or othell fs, ive read that with future updates this will change, and make it easyer (since actual drop/spoil mats are bugged at all)...
    so, yeah, we can lvl up till 85 without er (i do it in 3 days with pa and some runes/xp pot), but, no all the ppl (the new ppl who first arrive to the game) know how to do it with c/b/a grade, and they just get bored before reach 85... we have a lot of grind-fest from 85+, so make it hard for low lvl ppl doesnt change the game.
    when the koreans fix the new crafting, it will be great (probably better than the old one), but untill then i think its better to keep evolutionary, and im not meaning about vit pots, just keep the armor/weapons for a suitable lvl up till 85.
     
  8. lioneros

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    same here... spent all money on a-s80 grade. r95 dagger not even in any auctioneer. fok it. this pa finishes and no way i would pay for new/items. sorry but this is currently unplayable. no craft system, no s-s80 grade, no r95 grade armor/weap, no support for newcommers. those who havent got r95/99 before update have no chance to compete.
    i don't see a reason to play until the next update changes all this.
     
  9. Robby

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    whiners just go shoot urself,
    like seriously rather than thinking a way, how to gather money and buy your needed armor you come here and whine and believe me there is plenty of ways to do it.
    newcommers? i rerolled and i made my awakening with c grade armor and a grade weapon(steel coins) ,like seriously you have 1 hour sonatas now, which you didnt had before if you didnt own a iss box, which compensates your poor gear. it's only slightly worse
    r grade gear you get from mentee stuff and you can live with it till 95 to get your seraph, in range of 10 lvls you want to tell me you cant gather money for that, same goes for 95-99.
     
  10. jrch2k10

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    well is not easy now, how the make that kind of money? i mean teredor/swamp/harnak/soa drop nothing you can sell if ever dropped something[0.05% for requiem sure is awesome] now if you reach 90 well istina/fairy/gog/spezion/spicula/fortuna if for some miracle drop something is either unbind r or blessed armor for which you have 300 rusting in the action house and those elcyum powder is like enough to buy shots at best[and since you will need them later is not smart to sell] and if you reach 95 you won't get to enter octavis since nobody will invite or leave party when see your items and gf/sos is near impossible to get something good.

    so how you expect a newbie to reach 800millions for a r95 set + 500mill minimal for weap and well r99 is into billions? i mean crossroads is useless without at least 2 good 99 dd[and normally they won't party with 97- ppl] otherwise it takes a too much time to kill that make it worthless.

    so basically your ecomony for gear depends of miracles like dropping an istina/octavis shirt or jewels [and not get scammed ofc] or maybe a full drop which is even harder to drop or an instanced antharas uber luck shot.

    so until episodeon won't be weird to find 98 ppl in mentor gear or apo/twilight in best case[most ppl i know including me are crystalizaing their twilight stuff that is more rentable than sell it in auction or keeping them for dual class] which will affect real bad oly's and pvp, i mean i have r95 set +4 and 60 of every element and any archer 99 in oly oneshot me with criticals of 40k and even in some cases 1 r99 archer wiped out alone my entire 95-96 cp without breaking much of a sweet.

    i don't mean is absolutely impossible but in glory days you had many many ways to make adenas and unidentified items helped newbies to reach 95 with hope of get a good enough bound gear, i mean this change make it insane for newbies and non already 99 ppl because they went too far too fast without a proper[and humanly possible method] craft system.

    ofc if you are an russian/korean grade nolifer kid that play 18h day maybe is easy for you to get some millions per week but for everyone else is very very hard and unfriendly now, i just hope korea push episodeon very fast to avoid bigger damage to our server population or at least innova team push some in-house helps to mitigate the issue until then
     
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  12. lioneros

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    mby youre to ******ed to get it. no way anybody can make 500kk+ for seraph armor and 500kk for r95 weapon in 85-95 after this idiotic update. no drops at instances. reality is that newcomers give up before they reach 85 because of no equip. until the end of year server will have 30%+ less players than before the update. we'll see who will whine then...
     
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  13. Robby

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    i`m ******ed just because i have brains and patience to spend few days nonstop mos or 1 week hour to hour make your r95 gear
     
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    do you need a mentee ? or you allready rolling around with +16 lightsaber
    newbies and old players maby will quit but they leaving mentee coins and items for us and some cash for innova ofc
    so bring the damn set items on every grade

    you failed with steel donor coins, you should ask that koreans for a working system cause you cannot buy additional steel donor coins via pc points, am i right ? just please correct me if im wrong, maby ist some magic hidden button in l2 store to buy those coins

    no ?

    then bring the damn set items on every grade, peroid

    you care that that 1 shot guy will get free vorpal ?



    /e and fix the damn interface, not working buttons,bugged fonts, bugged macro`s, reseting changes and lag when loging to game
    /e2 allso send to that koreans this request i ask you for, about boosting lottery tickets and fishin rewards
     
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  15. piotress

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    i do not have any of these problems.
     
  16. Yunalesca

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    it happens to me tho and my cp healer.

    with lindvior they oficialy screwed some features, keyboards that stop working with user interface was a bug never fixed since lindvior came, i had to change keyboard( a keyboard i use since chronicle 4 scions of destiny~ 2006...).

    also the butons disapearing plus xp bar when u randomly re-size window.

    the macros bug every 3 days and need to reput them back...

    and since last maintenance we got ncwest epic npc loading time bug, it takes forever to load them. ><

    also when character logs in, need to mount horse for char to appear or it won't move and stays invisible.

    also yea...the interface reset is years known bug...it disgusts me when i see they "fixing" bugs that dont need a fix and dont fix these.

    now let's just wait for when they send us the wynn summoner bug without a fix :(
     
  17. qre8ive

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    lets hope not :/
     
  18. piotress

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    then your pc is haunted because i still don't have any of these issues, and my character appears on the screen a second or two after the game loads as do the npc's. i have been using the same macros for months and mine never get reset, nor does my interface get reset, everything on my screen stays where i stick it after logging out.
     
  19. Yunalesca

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    well definitely not my pc.

    the reset window discussion had been made on rochand, unsolved. and the other bugs have been reported on pts discussions, and the keyboard problems were report on ru inova aswell.
     
  20. Alarion

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    yunalesca got right in that case
     
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