Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

i don't think hate is included from any comment before, it's a pure impression of people who played with those guys and now they acting like a bunch of puppy's in a "safe zone" with this joining to big zerg.

p.s. don't get me wrong, personally didn't have any bad relation with any enclave, but believe me flamers will remind u this step with ally all the time.

 

if i'm not wrong , we didn't asked to bs members if defro will fit as leader for everyone. lempartus left and many things/drama came after. so enclave members who were previously bs for the core members just left due to that. you can't flame people for a choice that they made.

peking? you're in bs ? if yes , seems like you fit totally to your description of people that wouldn't go back to clan.

in my opinion , bs wasn't well organized in mass event and seems like it went worst when defro took the lead ( cf antharas video from sprtcs). so yeah , you can flame me , i was for this ally since a long long time , but i didn't promised anything to anybody in bs since they mostly don't know me. but you don't need to be somebody to have an opinion !

 

dude....like others said, what you expected? remember how enclave thing started? some drama with defro about a lindvior and shani wanting to take the leadership and disband the clan until octomber or something. nobody could exactly say what was the problem. nobody! every time we were hearing something different. at the end...they took 7sins talisman with the points they had (around ~500 of them out of ~3000 were my personal 9 months work and patience) and left!that's it! so the french people followed them because of seleniia being in shani party. we lost important ammount of people that day...and for what? for nothing. seemed more like lempartus jumping off the sinking ship. not to mention that the 1st weeks all was ok until you started coming to ant queen and trying to compete against us and ba/rg. that + that you were destroying our siege plans by attacking 7sins made us to give you war.

think about being in ba and doing the same to them :d you would be executed in aden square with a guillotine, just like the old times, outside of notre dame de paris.

it is not about being haters to you. it is about make the clan bleed more the moment we were in our darkest days and turn against us. and now.....this... ask yourself. how would you feel?

defro said countless times he took leadership out of need because nobody wanted it. actually 1 did and it was shani. and as i said she wanted to disband the clan until autumn. tell me, who do you think people would pick?

and btw, nice judging from a propaganda video on a failed antharas. check castle status please. ba started the mass brainwashing i guess.

 

i made some siege with bs when i was in , and it was total fail everytime. i judge from my proper opinion and my experience as a player. this video shows what i felt in bs clan.

the drama didn't changed the way i thought ( and i didn't know anything about those , thx for some explanations) , i wanted to leave bs to join ba many time before all of this. but like i said , i've no power to make decisions , i'm just giving opinion.

but about what i expected ? only friends and leaders from bs can judge shanique, atlantis and seleniia if ofc they promised some things. others? who are them to flame ? only haters like i said !

 

what do you expect about fail sieges when enemys have 2 or 3x more numbers.
ofcourse nobody like to lose, but think about realistic, we have max 80~90 online on siege,
how about enemys? only redguard are more, not even talking about ba so the numbers are clear.

its easy to join the winning side, and enjoy it,
but dont forget one thing, with this just making the server one sided and boring.

just a simple calculation for next siege

enclave lets say 50 online
blackanges lets say 100 online
redguards lets say 100 online

vs

blackswans 90 online
7sins 30 online

250 vs 120


(feel free to correct the numbers)

 

(i felt free to correct the numbers)

 

don't worry, ba/rg managed to hang that, you will too.

 

a few months ago :

ba let's say 100 online
rg let's say 100 online

total : 200

bs let's say 180 online ( afaik there was a siege or two where you had 196 in cc - total max for 28 cp's, but let's say you didn't )
bsii let's say 70 online
laonda let's say 50 online
a few sieges when you guys sent 7sins to come to rune + 30 7sins ?

total : 300-330 online

( feel free to correct the numbers )

 

we shouldn't speak about the past, the present matters.
(i don't really care about old players, what they were saying and writing in the past)

lineage 2 is a game where numbers always matter, but nobody should use it as an indicator of quality, when i hear bs got smashed, is nothing weird with these numbers ;p

 

let's burn all the history books then....

 

i repeated it countless times, it's only a game, we don't write any history here, the server will be gone, and nobody will give a **** about the stories.

 

define few months

 

if we have to be practical, the earth will be gone one day, along with the whole solar system, the milky way and probably the entire universe. does this mean that we're not writing any history ? and just because one day, there will be probably nothing left to remember or no one to remember it, we shouldn't keep a record and call it a "history" until then ? it's the same here, just way smaller scale and it doesn't mean that i should forget every previous day, because some day all of this won't matter.

more than one.

 

shall we laugh now? laonda actually helped only in 2 sieges maybe 3 but not more. (not to mention that you guys never ever posed bs2 and laonda as a threat, why you even count them now?) the time i remember bs having 180 online at siege was when i joined them in octomber. since then the number was dropping every time slowly. 5-4 months ago the average was ~120-130.

riot start : 30.06.2014, 22:22

current date : 2.10.2014

 

elesmira, both lemp and me didnt quit bcs any competiton. us and many ppl were simply bored all clan competition is about who cc leader has better clicker with better ping to server. it is all competition in l2 nothing more. i dont wanna talk about staying 50% time on twinks, ******ed pay2win, only instances (and even more them coming in erethia) to get any gold. if u still enjoy this type of competition stay, we lost spirit with recently changes and were looking something more similar to old l2 and we found.

koreans promised 1 year ago they will bring old l2 (no instances, more worth open spots etc. what we got after 1 year? something totaly oposite...) sieges were fun but it is only once per 2 weeks. not enough to keep fun from game.


about selenia, atlantis, shaniq. i was hoping i wont see more hipocrysy but why i was lying myself? this comunity showed top of hipocrysy many times and those rats just joined competition in this game. gratz guys i want vomit when i read what u did after 1 year of longer being and building 1 clan and about how hard u trashed ba. now best friends. weill with top rats atlantis and selenia i shouldnt be suprised. same as haxito joining cursed cp. another hipocrysy of year. i will finish here cause i miss more words to describe how my eyes bleeding reading what is going on...

 

i barely care anymore. bs were a burning ship sinking when it happened. now we are again rising from the depths. and this is being done with our own efforts aka without you or lempartus. we are proud of this. i hope you are having fun where you are.

 

this.


@anxxxixiixixi, no im not at bs. but even than i have my opinion from enclave, mah frend.

 

no, you should be pretty serious, because you just proved my point :

ba/rg's numbers were consistent all this time, bs numbers were fluctuating. enclave joining our side, is nothing else, but the result of the actions that bs made in the past, that's it. funny thing is how we're discussing this now, but with the small difference, that in the past, when we said "bs is winning only because of numbers", we were laughed at and dismissed with the "find more excuses". now we're winning because of numbers, ok ? deal with it. i don't see the value in pointing fingers at us, telling us we're more. we know.

@surprised : we're again on the quality vs quantity topic ?

 

w/e


btw....



nemesysx, mel, shadowel & chilimenik or chmielnik or idk... can't even say it.

we will miss you.

 

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