Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

it's true, th outgears my clan badly; on the same principle, i should go take stuff from other ppl because i deserve it cause i am stronger; then claim it's for their own good;

i came back to the server about 1 year and 4 months ago, lvled up, got some decent gear, can proudly say my cp and i are not 1 shot for th, we're 2-3 shots; and no matter how much we farm, th and en will not stay still, they will continue to farm; we will farm epic tauti and maybe lilith/anakim/baium, they will farm antharas valakas lindvior earth wyrm etc; you still think we can catch up?

 

I dont know exactly your cp's items or TH's but jumping from level 3 brooch jewels to level 4 is easier than jumping from 4 to 5/6 so in theory you can catch up and the same way with every other type of item.

 

i love pvp, should i stop pvp'ing when en/th are around cause they will ruin our fun? Maybe my view on the world is wrong, but i avoid killing even war tags lowbies with high level chars, unless of course they do that first, to give them a taste of how unfair that is.

 

I don't think dragons are giving that much adena anymore, you can find antharas / valakas normal necklaces on very cheap price in AH atm, not to say about weapon, armor parts or scrolls, the things that are worth money are pve weapon stone, bottles(you get 1 antharas bottle per raid only but 2 valakas) and lindvior earring atm. Valakas generates one bless jewel every 5 raids (55 days if you take all 5 of them), antharas generates 1 bless jewel every 10 raids (110 days if you get 10/10), considering you don't buy a single bottle from the market, sure it's good profit and worth it to go for the top clans, but you don't need to start competing for those and I will explain you why.

Let's say that Bless valakas it's 35 billions and it takes you 55 days to make it if you get all 5 valakas. In the same period of time (8 weeks), you can kill Ant Queen about 32 times (round it to 30 cuz 55/7=7.8), from 30 AQ's let's say you get 15 times bottle 15 times ring, so you end up with 15 soul AQ rings that have a price of 2.5-3kkk atm? for sure you should add pve weapon stone and more things to the valakas, but the profit for the time spent in a raid like AQ might be not so bad to start gearing up and growing. It won't be enough but you need to start from scratch, you can't start building a house from the roof

Edit: TLDR version is what 3yon said, you don't need top gear to start competing, being in subpar level can help you also to start fighting with EN/TH, for sure you will start losing a lot until you find the way to go, but if you win a 10% it's better than 0% right?

 

my group is not that badly geared ) we do have some normal epics, good weapons, decent brooches / armors, wouldn't mind getting more info on current aq instance

 

1st of all it's not even an instance, you can just check in youtube how people is killing it nowadays, or just go to AQ, check who is doing it, how they are doing it and think of a way of getting the upper hand on them being it by either killing them or having more damage than them or using any other tactic of your imagination. Same you apply for this one can be applied to any boss / instance in this game that you want to farm, the only thing that differs are numbers needed

 

gearing up advices from a guy who plays in server 2y and has still normal set

 

To get AQ you need to be able to outdamage about 4 TH titans, only 1 of them having top gear but i think that would be hard for people in VV, especially if TH defends since pvp is out of the equation.

 

Tbh I would agree that sometimes top clans are ruining the fun of lower clans for their own profit but it's the game , It always have been unfair , cannot really complain about it. But don't give up cause of it.

@iLiftTrucks Ztifler wasn't driven by Rio ? So Rio without cl cloak in oly is not farming much.
And we got one hunter if I remind right.

 

rio with cloak or without cloak is losing to the same charracters in oly... the cloak is quite importent for outside pvp..

 

It was taking them last times I checked them 25 minutes to kill AQ with 4 titans with tauti weapons, while when we were doing them in RG we were killing it in 10 minutes only with 1 titan with tauti and ruby 3 (not even opal lvl 1), and abundance 1

 

I think they got disturbed coz last i check aq was down in 5 mins or less by qqbang cp toons i believe. Its doable to beat them, depending whethet they get help from others or not ^^

 

actually 7 if i'm not mistaken. 4 it's np.

 

Rio on ztifler without cl cloak not farmed much, but still was enough to take hero several times...

About castle: I dont know if EN knows, but castle give 10 % pvp damage to 40+ ppl in clan. Do we really discuss why u choose to have castle or no if u have that opportunity.

About cloak itself. For sure ill keep it on my useless char and not give to our archers bcs im Tranks right? :-D Seems mitso got busted by game mechanics and now trying to find some last remaining air and convince himself he doesnt failed :-D Or maybe he is looking for some propaganda to not give cloak to Rio so he might survive in 7v7 10 min longer? Who knows...
Definitely i can say ill not keep cloak on myself, but will be given to archers. After 20th mainteance it will also depends on what castle will be pvp stone, what will be conditions and what game plan we gonna have. And also since its on christmas, who will be actually online during christmas.

 

Ah so after 20 now you will see, when you called me out for saying AFTER NEXT WEEKS MAINTENANCE. My party is bad, my clan is worse, you guessed it right, i'm Logy!

 

mhhh =)

 

If u wanna have some laugh, read last 2 pages and tell me where i answered to U that i wont? I answered only thats its not possible to change CL to TDA due to game mechanics and since TDA is leader for last 4 month, its still possible he still will, but as i said all will depends on more factors. 99,9 % he wont be, bcs it mean he wont be on siege, so u can sleep well. Maybe in next 7v7 u will kill our PT 21 times and not 18 like last time.

 

My party is bad, my clan is worse , you guessed it right, i'm Logy! Now go PvP Vaevictis since it fits better the level of your almighty clan.

 

Well, dont change topic mitso. Here is your post. I explained U its not possible. U are specialist in selfownage. Go change subject 3 more times now :-D :-D

 

From the start i told you you will be able to give Riordian clan leader on december 20 something you will indeed do. I don't know about what selfownage you are talking about. You wasted your whole clans sunday evening so your hungarian wonderboy can have CL cloak for olympiad so he can maybe pass 200 points. Topic is, you are bad, your clan is bad and you should feel bad about it because it's your fault.