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Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

Discussion in 'Activity' started by DeepBlue, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. Anxxonymous

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    Did I said that 3 healers > 3 tanks hero ? No.

    I said 4 strong archers and 3 were stacked and I even said the names. So stop reading only what you wish to read and start using your brain.

    Gz with 180 kills on an aoe damage dealer. What I wanted to show with me doing 50 kills on Sayha means that the other DDs didn't made that much , I should hit 50 kills with the stacked DDs we have in clan, and you won because we didn't had them yesterday and that's why you won.

    Pointing out the fact that you're lieing in order to make the victory even more epic while it was just normal. About me saying gf , go check the post of Padjil. I'm just answering to the propaganda. You said you were 13 with only one tank , no , you were 14 with two tanks. And yes it was important because it left Sprtcs alive for more times than the 1st pvp and this made you win.

    This pvp showed nothing since you had your top pt and we didn't have. I need to know how Logy can know how we got transfered gear.

    You won this but it was normal , nothing epic and nothing that will give you the upper hand in pvp. You're still far from being able to challenge us while we have same kind of forces.


    Logy quote yourself somewhere and you will get your answer. You guys are QQing like princesses that we have more stacked archer but when it's the opposite , your win become epic , just lol. Enjoy your only dragon pvp won since half a year. And the fact that you didn't even show up at Antharas made quite clear that you're fine winning once all the 6 months.
     
  2. Hax

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    allab osidian 6 was his own y.
    Also 2x lvl4 brooch cast in kengaa pt, also purely his own
     
  3. Elesmira

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    Give me your Paypal account, I ll put you 50 euro to go get checked out on a phycologist
     
  4. Anxxonymous

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    But your pt having more than 2 brooch cast according to you means that you didn't transfered as well? Dude , keep thinking that the fight was equal while you had clearly the upper hand. Your victory isn't epic , it was normal. Gz to your side , but this is quite disapointing to do not see you on the next dragon while you won the previous one.

    You won this and I think we could have done better , but for sure it was harder for us to win this than you winning it. The 1st part of the fight would have been easier to win for us since Sprtcs had no tank protections at all and so on , wasn't killing that much people from our side.
     
  5. Hax

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    if you didnt have 3 hero tanks pvp would be over much quicker trust me :D
    that perma aggro cuz iron cant chain purges (@Melivia ) isnt so easy to handle next to hero skills.

    We cant fight your clan vs clan.
    We have 2 parties with brooches and you have like:

    - At least 3 CPs with 2 brooch casts or more
    - like 3 more or so wiith at least 1 brooch cast.

    and add to that general gear advantage
     
  6. GecKos

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    Our tank use 1ud = EN tank can use 2... our tank use 1 sacrifice = EN tank can use 2... our tank got hited from our 2nd pt... our tank dead 20 times from 1hit of pro anxxi (for it he did more than 50 kills, killing boxes is too easy)... we need waste time to res him to use some ud/sacrifice o sprtcs... and ozono, innervate, evernya can perma silent me if havent purge and other healer die... EN tank can use hero fear/silence and kill our pt in 15sec (they did it)... so for me yes tank need good gear/lvl
     
  7. Anxxonymous

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    Ofc I focus your tank , it's giving you an huge advantage. But don't worry I didn't killed 50 times your tank , I killed Accuser as well and many others. Not only boxes , I'm not Syra.

    Wasting time to ress your tank in order to protect Sprtcs and so on killing half of our actives people ? Are you serious right here ?


    @Hax I know that the pvp would be over much quicker, I didn't said the opposite once again , still 3 hero tanks isn't''y giving the same advantage than 3 stacked archers , and if you deny this well , there is no way to wonder why you're not coming just to try clan vs clan.

    Gear advantage is something , being able to perma purge is another thing , this is what you're missing in most of your CPs. When I'm able to debuff parties with 3 healers all alive then you don't have to wonder why you're not able to stand clan vs clan.
     
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  8. Padj1l

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    I don't use evas rune so there's a 3s debuff window even with 3 healers. Also sometimes people loose track in 2h of pvp i guess it's understandable, I think overall our purge rotation was not bad.
     
  9. MrOurk

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    What kind of tank you have that it can do only 1 pt UD and 1 sacrifice? Teach him to play properly since there's no gear required to do 2 pt ud's and 2 sacrifices, even tank naked can do it
     
  10. yLogy

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    Its not only about reuse, but also duration of skills +20. In noble sacrifice is most visible. Proper tank with oe on time can keep person almost perma or with few seconds window, box tank without skills and proper items, will have 10s and like 20 s without. Its pretty huge, dont even speak about defense ( dmg from other ppl) and amount of HP.
    Udies same story, but there effect isnt doubled bcs of longer duration.
     
  11. MrOurk

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    I'm not talking about the damage his tank is going to receive or how much time he can keep people alive because his skills are +10 and not +20, I have same situation on my group with a tank w/o much gear, but even if your tank is level 99 and it has literally 0 equipment (running naked) you should be able to do both pt ud's before dying
     
  12. Padj1l

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    Whar geckos meant was that since our tank had 0 gear ( it was brought as box by a low geared dd who offered to play it main instead), he probably had higher reuse and much lower skill duration so your tanks could actually cast UDs and sacrifice much more often. Of course he was able to use them properly before dieing. Maybe not double but probably not that far considering evas,wind scroll,reuse necklace if he hadnt etc.
     
  13. Hax

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    For them being able to land aggro and silence/para and having 101 Tank Aura and low ++uds and sacrifice doesnt matter it seems.
    That tank changed the course of the whole pvp according to anxi :D
     
  14. MrOurk

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    Yeah you can tell me he had no gear or lower gear than anyone else on that pvp, but you can't tell me the guy wasn't using a simple normal tezza necklace for the cd for pt ud's, unless it was boxed tank and not being played active, I can understand no windy/eva but no neck for reuse imo it's nonsense
     
  15. Padj1l

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    Well maybe extenuation transfered gear on it for the pvp would make sense, I'm not sure tho. Who cares anyway ? :D
     
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  16. NiNeTT

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    they lost and come forum to discuss about a box tank.....:Facepalm-l2:


    read about that a tank dont need gear , when tank class is one of the class that with gear can make a lot of difference in 1 pvp


    pd: anxxi as you said i kill a lot of boxes , but dont be mad i heard that you ozono and other guy tried to kill my char while lanz was boxing it to valakas heart and you die :11:
     
  17. MrOurk

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    I think you should take a reading comprehension class ASAP, I clearly said in order to do UD's / sacrifice you don't need gear, since that part you don't rely on gear at all, Idk from where you getting anyone said that tanks doesn't need gear, it's quite different.
     
  18. NiNeTT

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    lanz said that you cant compare en mains tank with a box tank and you answer was this

    i invite you to use sacrifice in a box tank , i invite you to use uds in a tank w/o gear , i invite you to come with your main cp and i will show you how your tank main with gear and lvl die before e can even use a single ud
     
  19. MrOurk

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    What's the problem of using sacrifice on a box tank? The damage transfered is the damage the user getting the sacrifice is getting, so even if tank is naked and the target on sacrifice is good geared, he won't take much damage back. On UD's it's kind of same, a tank can't simply die if the ud's are used properly unless a lot o people focuses on getting him down, simple as that, but well you're just bad and it's hard for you to understand how game is working, since only thing you can do is throwing money to the screen hopping to kill someone by overgearing them a lot, sad story
     
  20. Anxxonymous

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    I killed your char without sonatas , LanZ has trouble driving any toon , I'm not surprised that it was him playing.

    And yes that tank gave you the advantage , you were close to wipe before we got ported out by the instance. Sprtcs was the one giving us trouble, and from the first pvp we could easily keep Sprtcs down since he had no tank behind him. The second pvp , it was much harder to keep Sprtcs down.

    But still the problem here is that you didn't show up for Antharas so I don't even know why you're proud of winning once and giving up the one after just because you're afraid to lose.

    Now we will hear about your victory for 6 months while we have similar victories every 10 days ( it's the normal amount of time before you're showing up normally )