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Discussion in 'Feedback Archive' started by Elesmira, Jun 11, 2014.

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  1. Elesmira

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    core ain't russian servers in many ways so we want different server management. but what most of people think is that they are completely ignored by innova.

    >>up<< waiting staff comment.
     
  2. DeepBlue

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    it has already been told and announced that the staff are on holidays so how about we all be patient and stop with the "no one cares to answer" stuff yeah?
     
  3. SentencedToBlues

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    already? the l2 store event just srtarted 1 week ago
     
  4. Elesmira

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    holidays 12-15 of june. it's 15 today. so lets see :)
     
  5. DeepBlue

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    12-15 means they are not back till 16th and i am sure that once they have caught up on the more important things then they will soon be around to read your feedback.
     
  6. Elesmira

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    [​IMG]

    cm onyx reading the thread omagad!
     
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  7. ocio19

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    lol he's reading bit long :d
     
  8. Elesmira

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    they will answer soon. i got pm.
     
  9. Onyx

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    first of all, let me thank you for the most constructive feedback i have ever seen on this forum :)
    now, to the point.

    we are aware of all the feedbacks you post, guys. i read everything and if needed i forward it to all who may be involved in the topic discussed.

    the answer is joint for all 3 questions. lineage 2 eu is only a part of innova’s business and we as a company have a general development strategy. neither me, pazak or pask decide what store updates we get. innova has monetization specialists and it is their decision together with ncsoft which updates we implement. we, gms, have an advisory vote for this topic, but we do not make final decisions.

    we make proposals to ncsoft and inform them on all game bugs. ncsoft prioritizes them and if there is a major issue – it gets a hot fix, if the issue is not heavily affecting game process – the solution may take time. the problem you are referring to was categorized as an important one so it got solved quickly. besides that, problems discussed face to face always get solved quicker that discussed via emails, for example.

    we will consider this opportunity :)
     
  10. Elesmira

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    so time to punch people in moscow.

    i bet this gif presents the communication innova got with the koreans.

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    i bloody hope you will.

    p.s. thanks a lot for a better answer than the one i expected.
     
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  11. Surprised

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    nothing will change, and i bet sooner or later innova will add broochs to our game, and close the server ;) (russians can put their "final decission" deep inside their *****)
    is that also constructive feedback?
     
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  12. Elesmira

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    and no sir i think it ain't.
     
  13. Zizka

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    let me share some thoughts from a person that played here since the first day the server opened. at first i thought as all of you, that these updates are so bad, how much i hate them. you know, my 2 years farm and 1 year in cp was eradicated in a day by releasing a box with soul aq. but then i thought i am being egocentric and tried to see the game from staffs' perspective. and here are my conclusions.
    1) the opinion of gamers do not really matter. they are not the ones who decide how "we" should run "our" business. i mean how much of you have economics education or run your own business? and how would you react if your customers demand that you work almost free for them? yes you can give them free candies from time to time but not work for free.
    2) since i decided to quit l2 i wanted to know how much money i have lost (respectively innova earned from me). and i was a bit shocked. for my 3 years on this server i have invested around 350 eur. i have only bought premium, some vitality items and 5-10 boxes. but this makes around 9 eur a month lost earnings for innova since i quit. does that really matter? no. even if 100 people like me quit they will not loose much. so gamers are not important. people with a lot of money are! and you can't "seduce" them to spend their money if what they get is 100% drop rate, or 30% sp. i bet my left arm the "donors" that we all know didn't farm adena a single day.
    so elesmira, you are free to believe anything you want but making profit is what makes the business successful, not pleasing clients like me and you and sun4o.
    although this is not long term thinking but aiming at maximizing short term profit. the only hope we can have is ncsoft to realize that. with time it will be harder and harder for them to find "donors", and when not 100 but 1000+ players like me have left the server, they will feel the loss.
    dear innova/ncsoft staff you still have chance to reverse what you've done. look at this like the global warming situation. we still can reverse it if we put some clever ideas. but beware, the point of no return is coming!
     
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  14. Alarion

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    hard to dont agree...
     
  15. Elesmira

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    lemme quote myself.


    i am not l2 store box hater...i am a drop nerfing hater. the problem is how the ingame money flow. and they do not flow! in order to make lets say 1 bilion adena you must a)be part of the 2 big factions and have a good cp b)be extremely lucky (like getting jewel from istina or octavis with less than 1% chance /7+ people you might have in party c)be donor.

    i guarantee you that even if we had these boxes and you could make money easier ingame without putting hand deep in wallet, people would react in a much more calm way. in every other official server you see botwaves everywhere...thats how there the money flow & thats why they do not riot...
     
  16. Sun40

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    the server economy is destroyed , thanks to the great innovators of innova .
    but who cares , you guys enjoy the easy stuff , don't you ?
    swallow , swallow this items on a golden spoon .
    thanks for fun , i'm out (delete my account , tnx)
     
  17. RedWind

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    ehm ?! anti seamonster society saying this is over? ;) holy **** :d
     
  18. melcz

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    but thats good, isnt it? i feel core needs more ppl who are dealing game as a game not as real life goal :p
     
  19. Zairakh

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    thats where you're wrong as hax believing germany could win a football world cup.

    without a dedicated playerbase no game would last longer.
    and to have a strong community was always one of the best points l2 had towards other games, but lately this has been erased from various devs-publishers making l2 nothing more than a common themepark, with the burden of being older than most of games around.
    if your community is unhappy, generally this means somebody is doing a bad job to them.
     
  20. melcz

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    understood and agreed. only "dedicated" does not have to mean "life goal". i still think that the goal of playing l2 isn't jihad against others. that's all.
     
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