Lets start riot !!

enough said....

 

considering entering instances it is the same. the final "click" is automated either by software or mouse/keyboard. it is not human reflexes but ping and delay of your system just like you said in one of previous post. if it is right or not i dont want to judge because 100 ppl will have 100 opinions. and ofc you need to be present bcs you go to kill the dragon after. manually.

agree

 

there are people on this server ( from both sides and i guess not only from them ), that use devices like nostromo ( or equivalents ) on olympiad. it is most visible on iss enchanters ( for sure others use them as well ), but i won't name any to prevent spammy outcome. my question is :

if people are allowed to use nostromo-like devices for oly ( which allow them un-humanly fast re-targeting and casting ) and mass pvp ( same as oly ), then where do you draw the line of the usage of that hardware ? for oly/pvp it's ok, but for entering raids is not ? one could argue, that winning heroes, because of hardware usage, is also unacceptable, but then how do you prove that ? the hardware is mostly undetectable, and during oly there is no spam, just insane short reaction times ( think like - enemy iss goes out of stone form earlier than he is supposed to, you click the nostromo and - bam, you target and transform faster than he can put angel's touch on him ), which are anything but "check in the server logs for it" proof.

so what is acceptable and what is not ? winning hero with the help of hardware, entering dragons ? or the mentioned opening of 4s chests ? and why ?

 

lf more conspiracy theories!

 

0 difference in attitude, sorry. the same things can be reverted easily because i 've seen them. you did even your own riot here : https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=27502 . our is just a bit more advanced :d . the conflict exists because of old dramas few people had with few others. the top guys of each clan (aka dah factorz) are having hostilities with each other for reasons that most people do not give a precious **** and after that other people join these clans (aka non factorz) and are being brainwashed against the enemy because he is the enemy. and that's pretty much it.

now if any jester wants to come here and start "trashing" because he thinks his side is the best side he is free to do it. you should support your side anyway if you think it is right. still in many eyes including mine core's conflicts are a tragic comedy.

best retorical question on forums but still ain't much to do with it unfortunately.

 

the fact u even comparing those two cases, just make you fall down in my eyes.
this event was the solid reason why you are making a riot atm.
you got pwnd by system fault that my clan abused against you, since you used system faults to bug aq loots.
same stroy all over again, u buged aq you win all good, we buged it back, u loose and as a result, bs leadership run to administration: qqqqqqqqq bad ba buged my already bugged rb qqqqqqqqqqqqqq vhange rules so only we can bugg+ qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
two days later - aq rules changed by administation. you are lucky none of us made riots/protests or quited game over that event. cuz in difrence with you ppl, we are realists and we play l2 for 6-9 years already, we know how unbalanced and unfair the game is. accept it and move on. your leader`s opening post was nothing more but another cry to administration to change again some rules, cuz he is getting his *** kicked. if he was so thoughtfull (lol) to force 350 ppl to protest over the general 3rd party softwares problem, then the name of his enemy clan would not be in his post.
after you all realised your failure you started running, trying to slavage the situation. qq guys - too late....

 

riot is over ?

 

i will try to give my honest opinion on this topic, as i'm not member of ba/bs/rg i don't care which clan is saint and which one is evil, that doesn't matter for me right now.

all i wanted to say, a lot of people came to core from ncwest trying to get rid of botters / scripters and all that everyone knows from there. i joined here 6 months ago and i was proud to be able to say i was playing on almost free bot server and almost everyone was playing legitly until probably 1-2 months ago, when botters started become a problem at least for me. some people here already said there were bots on mos / loa / dv but also on ketra / varka / woa and so on and now both top sides are fighthing each other and saying one or other side is using programs, clickers and even botting to get fishing rewards.

i don't know if that's true, but imho again, no one wants this to be common, you know, we start with clickers or programs today and we can continue with scripts and zr****.

so as a solution i give you a suggestion, why don't make a big meeting between both big sides and also another important clans and everyone agrees to have a nice environment regarding everything as maximo or nemesysx already said? this is more matter of players as elesmira said than gm's work. let's have a nice environment and everyone will be playing happy, at least i think so

 

u playing internet games. what u wanna from gm? to ban everyone who has better pc and better ping than u? don't be pathetic.
as it was said xx times. we are not using any kind of bots to enter instances, to check who's your cc leader and whatever from what u abusing us.
whole riot is just big fail from your side. some trash like alarion told u on ts some fairytales and now u abusing everone around u. u cannot send any program to gms for entering instances or whatever, because we are not using it. its just your leaders explanation to u, why u are loosing everything.
i'm pretty sure soon alarion will spread some another propaganda about we using programs for pvp, because u starting loosing drastically in every pvp.
so, guys, just check reality around u. stop blackmailing innova and start playing.
game mechanics are same for both sides.

 

try harder, so much fail in your stories detective ))

 

logy, logy. i was answering to this.

coz it seems you feel right with gaming hardware but flame for bots when they all imho do work the same way - (half)automated gameplay. there is no need to attack me. ok?
are you able to look on the whole issue from greater perspective?

shiny> +1 yes, there no strict border between what is still "ok" and what already not. rather a gray zone.

 

can you all stop turning the topic into clan wars? or either people who left naia want actually naia here as well? we're speaking overall , we dont want scripts war and its time to stop so be once all togther in 1 metter and stop making such posts who is guilt because atm both sides are

 

so cheating is bad, ban them all. oke, just 1 question.
if there is someone who made a launcher for this game (what 100% legit, right?), and in that there are option about to see enemies more fan then legit ppl or ultrazoom, you would ban him cause of that? even if that person would be in the same cp like you? just asking.

one more thing, after this epesidion **** update come out here, ba+rg were not able to go anakim/lilith for like 1 month (the first anakim they did was cause bs went to valakas/antharas) after that.. some miracle happend and they learn some jedi trick and suddenly they clicked faster than the lightning. for sure its just some coincidence ...

 

u wanna know this trick? ok. just for u. after few lilith we understood, ziggurat spawning always same place. now we can see, what is real reason of riot. its 7sins talisman and bless jewels. lempartus or any others don't give a flying **** about some bots in lol locations.

 

and another detective's theories... damn some ppl never get bored...

 

for sure it's coincidence ba/rg couldn't

dat logic...

 

i see only bs qq here. where is other sides? like laonda 7sins or fa?
and btw what bs will do sunday evening/monday? i'm pretty sure there will be nothing done against what you cry.. you leave server or what?

 

it's ridiculous, guy is trying to derail every thread and then deepblue comes and punishes ba for "bad forum behavior"

 

bsdeepblue..