[V for Vitality] discussion thread

gothic84 · Dec 31, 2014

sixsense said: ↑

well i have no idea how many people will gain top equipment from this event at the end. but seems innova dont even care ,they break trust beetween players ,previoustly players had to spend dozen of hours to farm and reach that level of equipment that you offer now for few cents leaving those kind of players with 0 respect of their spend time in game, innova saw that these microtransactions play a major role for them and keep continue to play like this with players putting stuff for them to force and make no choice just to donate and gain more money and of course putting 2 choice to buy with adena which is 3 times more value then in l2store eliminating more adena and putting even more force to donate in this way. i have no idea how can you agree on such events by knowing how hard it is to make those kind of items that you offer.

let me give you an example of real innova game mechanics:

to get blessed antharas' earring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm blessed antharas' earring you need to spend 140 days to collect 10 bottles by slaying antharas with 100+people + earring can drop can not. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get blessed valakas from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm blessed valakas you need to spend 70 days to collect 10 bottles by slaying with 100+people valakas + valakas earring can drop can not. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get ruler's authority from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm ruler's authority you need for 1 month from monday till thursday every week play 16 matches which is 4h having opponent + clan help and trying your best to win. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get lindvior's earring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm lindvior's earring first you need to gather 150 people+- every 2 weeks spend inside 1h30min +- having a chance to drop 17.67% — 21.67% can take up to 3 months to drop 1 lindvior's earring. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get dark amaranthine enhancement stone from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm dark amaranthine enhancement stone unfortunately there is no way to obtain it by farm. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get tauti's ring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm tauti's ring you need to do tauti instance general which is 0.5% — 1% chance to drop and extreme which is 1.858% — 2.258% , having such drop chances can take up to half year 1 ring. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get earth wyrm heart ring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm earth wyrm heart ring correct me on this one what i know that since server started till today there was just 3-4 rings dropped in total. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get any of these tauti's weapons from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm any of these you need to do general tauti having a chance 4.569% — 5.569% and extreme tauti having a chance 8.999% — 10.999% by the way you need 10 fragments for any of these weapons which can take half year to collect if you are not investigating adena to buy them from others. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get baium's soul ring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm baium's soul ring you need to slay baium every sunday having a chance 27.89% — 33.89% to drop the bottle of baium's soul can take from 1 month till 3 month. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

as you saw to get any kind of this equipment requires dozens of time game play and lot of people in participating such instances. but the best part when such events come you have equal chance to obtain any event item no matter is it more game time spend or less. which leads to total disrespectful to the players effort putted in game their time spend to get any of this item's. and for example if you was working hard to obtain bless anthara's earring which has value of 40 bilions of adena or any other item for your cp remember all that time you spend innova values as 0.59 euro.
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be mu guest. buy tauti weapon or some epick from l2 store for 0.59 euro.

likas · Dec 31, 2014

gothic84 said: ↑

be mu guest. buy tauti weapon or some epick from l2 store for 0.59 euro.
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you've missed the whole point of sixsenses post... but meh

anyway, somewhen in future :d

Seivlas · Dec 31, 2014

relic said: ↑

for those who hope to get any epics from this even be ready to waste some major cash as some dude wasted 820 euros on lamps and got only lind.earing and 3 soul aq's(obviously also bunch of trash but nothing major except for 1 ama pvp stone)
also quite few guys who spent nearly 400 euros and got only 1-2 epics (soul aq's/bless zaken)

besides guys dont you think that its kinda too late to complain about these p2w events ? all of you know current state of this game and how it works yet you still keep complaining and *****ing.
this event wont affect 99% of players as it will only result in bunch of exp scrolls and maybe some more misc items so why the hell are you complaining about that 1% who will be lucky/rich enough to get smth ?
l2 is still quite funny game in that aspect that you can be top geared but if you are not in any major ally your impact on big events(epics/sieges etc) will be the same as it would be for lvl 85 char aka none

and yes quitting game/server you like just bcz there is event from which only few ppl will benefit is just dumb
also one more thing before i end my rant: keep in mind those who are able to donate tons of money has already done that and received everything they needed either from rmt or innova "events"
atm it doesnt even matter anymore if they keep beating that dead horse its dead already and one more kick wont really change anything
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can i have your major trash please ? i'd be more than happy to have this

VivaLa · Dec 31, 2014

sixsense great post! especially i love this part:

sixsense said: ↑

to get dark amaranthine enhancement stone from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm dark amaranthine enhancement stone unfortunately there is no way to obtain it by farm. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

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Yiam. · Dec 31, 2014

they keep adding such stuff to l2store, you keep crying about it.
money keeps flowing.
nothing changes, all year round for some years already.

Seivlas · Dec 31, 2014

does someone know how those scrolls work with birthday potion ? like, do you lose vitality even with the replenishing one, does it double the replenish effect, ... ?

Maxior · Dec 31, 2014

relic said: ↑

for those who hope to get any epics from this even be ready to waste some major cash as some dude wasted 820 euros on lamps and got only lind.earing and 3 soul aq's(obviously also bunch of trash but nothing major except for 1 ama pvp stone)
also quite few guys who spent nearly 400 euros and got only 1-2 epics (soul aq's/bless zaken)

besides guys dont you think that its kinda too late to complain about these p2w events ? all of you know current state of this game and how it works yet you still keep complaining and *****ing.
this event wont affect 99% of players as it will only result in bunch of exp scrolls and maybe some more misc items so why the hell are you complaining about that 1% who will be lucky/rich enough to get smth ?
l2 is still quite funny game in that aspect that you can be top geared but if you are not in any major ally your impact on big events(epics/sieges etc) will be the same as it would be for lvl 85 char aka none

and yes quitting game/server you like just bcz there is event from which only few ppl will benefit is just dumb
also one more thing before i end my rant: keep in mind those who are able to donate tons of money has already done that and received everything they needed either from rmt or innova "events"
atm it doesnt even matter anymore if they keep beating that dead horse its dead already and one more kick wont really change anything
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its a matter of time than they put pvp stones and gear to store so yea wait until then

Negnal · Dec 31, 2014

sixsense said: ↑

well i have no idea how many people will gain top equipment from this event at the end. but seems innova dont even care ,they break trust beetween players ,previoustly players had to spend dozen of hours to farm and reach that level of equipment that you offer now for few cents leaving those kind of players with 0 respect of their spend time in game, innova saw that these microtransactions play a major role for them and keep continue to play like this with players putting stuff for them to force and make no choice just to donate and gain more money and of course putting 2 choice to buy with adena which is 3 times more value then in l2store eliminating more adena and putting even more force to donate in this way. i have no idea how can you agree on such events by knowing how hard it is to make those kind of items that you offer.

let me give you an example of real innova game mechanics:

to get blessed antharas' earring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm blessed antharas' earring you need to spend 140 days to collect 10 bottles by slaying antharas with 100+people + earring can drop can not. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get blessed valakas from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm blessed valakas you need to spend 70 days to collect 10 bottles by slaying with 100+people valakas + valakas earring can drop can not. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get ruler's authority from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm ruler's authority you need for 1 month from monday till thursday every week play 16 matches which is 4h having opponent + clan help and trying your best to win. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get lindvior's earring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm lindvior's earring first you need to gather 150 people+- every 2 weeks spend inside 1h30min +- having a chance to drop 17.67% â€” 21.67% can take up to 3 months to drop 1 lindvior's earring. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get dark amaranthine enhancement stone from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm dark amaranthine enhancement stone unfortunately there is no way to obtain it by farm. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get tauti's ring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm tauti's ring you need to do tauti instance general which is 0.5% â€” 1% chance to drop and extreme which is 1.858% â€” 2.258% , having such drop chances can take up to half year 1 ring. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get earth wyrm heart ring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm earth wyrm heart ring correct me on this one what i know that since server started till today there was just 3-4 rings dropped in total. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get any of these tauti's weapons from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm any of these you need to do general tauti having a chance 4.569% â€” 5.569% and extreme tauti having a chance 8.999% â€” 10.999% by the way you need 10 fragments for any of these weapons which can take half year to collect if you are not investigating adena to buy them from others. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

to get baium's soul ring from l2 store you need to pay 0.59 cents
to get by farm baium's soul ring you need to slay baium every sunday having a chance 27.89% â€” 33.89% to drop the bottle of baium's soul can take from 1 month till 3 month. is it fair to have two weeks event for such item? not

as you saw to get any kind of this equipment requires dozens of time game play and lot of people in participating such instances. but the best part when such events come you have equal chance to obtain any event item no matter is it more game time spend or less. which leads to total disrespectful to the players effort putted in game their time spend to get any of this item's. and for example if you was working hard to obtain bless anthara's earring which has value of 40 bilions of adena or any other item for your cp remember all that time you spend innova values as 0.59 euro.
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to get lotto ticket from shop in real life you need to pay 2.30 euro.
to earn 7.000.000 euro you need to do your currency work around more then you will live on this planet . general which is 0,0000072% chance to win on the lottery (if only you win you get all prce becouse if someone win with you you get half of it). is it fair to have 3.000.000 in one day by luck?not

buy lotton ticket in real life for 2,30 euro and have some luck to win 7.000.000 euro
better quit from real life becouse it's not fair for people who don't spend some euros on lotto.

sorry but your post is stupid.

Valkyrie · Dec 31, 2014

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sorry but i couldn't resist.
are you playing every day with your friend r****t ***jik p***nbg etc. aka biggest donator pt on core or what? why you don't have problem with that?
just to see how hypocrits ppl are .ppl like s***e and t**y. are crying about l2store event's just because it destroys the black market adena/euro from where they buy and sell their gear.
event is just fine and is no need for anyone to spent euro . use your adena to buy a lamp if you think that from one lamp you will get lindvior or b.valakas.
p.s ppl that will quit plz mail me your itemz!

p.s event will end on 13 and lamp will not be for sale anymore correct?

Sergei · Dec 31, 2014

valkyrie said: ↑

sorry but i couldn't resist.
are you playing every day with your friend r****t ***jik p***nbg etc. aka biggest donator pt on core or what? why you don't have problem with that?
just to see how hypocrits ppl are .ppl like s***e and t**y. are crying about l2store event's just because it destroys the black market adena/euro from where they buy and sell their gear.
event is just fine and is no need for anyone to spent euro . use your adena to buy a lamp if you think that from one lamp you will get lindvior or b.valakas.
p.s ppl that will quit plz mail me your itemz!

p.s event will end on 13 and lamp will not be for sale anymore correct?
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"event is just fine". i dont know u, i dont know who's butt ur trying to lick, i dont know who ur trying to troll but do urself a favor and dont post.

Valkyrie · Dec 31, 2014

i'm not trying to lick someone because i don't have to. and obviously i don't troll someone i'm just speaking the truth.
usually on every l2store update people that qqing are the people that don't know how to gear up or that lose euro because ppl buy from l2store and not for them (yes i'm speaking about the ex legit-redsky members) that play's on core for who ever understand's).

Sergei · Dec 31, 2014

u can buy epics from l2store at some whatever rate. that cant be right no matter what, and u try to convince anyone otherwise. i find it hard to believe that ppl like u actually exist so ... read my previous post.

Viena · Dec 31, 2014

as i see how much trading is going on in aden, red chat and hero voice with the "event stuff", my best guess is only a hand full of ppl complain here in the forums. the majority of players does not come to the forums and seems to have no trouble at all to spent some euro's and try their luck. personaly i can't be bothered as i don't have money spare to attend in this event anyways. besides that, with or without these "donor stuff", there is allways someone who is stronger, better geared, more experienced, more luck, more whatever than myself.

QUinter · Dec 31, 2014

negnal said: ↑

to get lotto ticket from shop in real life you need to pay 2.30 euro.
to earn 7.000.000 euro you need to do your currency work around more then you will live on this planet . general which is 0,0000072% chance to win on the lottery (if only you win you get all prce becouse if someone win with you you get half of it). is it fair to have 3.000.000 in one day by luck?not

buy lotton ticket in real life for 2,30 euro and have some luck to win 7.000.000 euro
better quit from real life becouse it's not fair for people who don't spend some euros on lotto.

sorry but your post is stupid.
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are u seriously comparing game with real life? go outside .. lineage it's too much for you :d

sixsense · Jan 1, 2015

negnal said: ↑

to get lotto ticket from shop in real life you need to pay 2.30 euro.
to earn 7.000.000 euro you need to do your currency work around more then you will live on this planet . general which is 0,0000072% chance to win on the lottery (if only you win you get all prce becouse if someone win with you you get half of it). is it fair to have 3.000.000 in one day by luck?not

buy lotton ticket in real life for 2,30 euro and have some luck to win 7.000.000 euro
better quit from real life becouse it's not fair for people who don't spend some euros on lotto.

sorry but your post is stupid.
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you can spend your euros on loto as much you want, if you want to compare the real life chance of 1 jackpot per 10 million with this server who have 1000 population then you are an idiot. all you haters act like you are smart , you are happy to have such events because you are totally handless in succeeding getting by farm and total clueless how much effort it takes.

Relic · Jan 1, 2015

sixsense said: ↑

you can spend your euros on loto as much you want, if you want to compare the real life chance of 1 jackpot per 10 million with this server who have 1000 population then you are an idiot. all you haters act like you are smart , you are happy to have such events because you are totally handless in succeeding getting by farm and total clueless how much effort it takes.
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well some ppl farm money irl and some spend countless of hours in game doing the same thing dont hate the player hate the game.besides you just admitted yourself that on handless players those epics are pretty much worthless so again why bother ?
also chances are the same doesnt matter if there are 1000 ppl or 10000 ppl playing same with lotto you are not playing against other people you are playing against the system of the game which calculates the odds.

21st_ · Jan 1, 2015

would be really good unban some people that got banned long time ago

sixsense · Jan 1, 2015

relic said: ↑

well some ppl farm money irl and some spend countless of hours in game doing the same thing dont hate the player hate the game.besides you just admitted yourself that on handless players those epics are pretty much worthless so again why bother ?
also chances are the same doesnt matter if there are 1000 ppl or 10000 ppl playing same with lotto you are not playing against other people you are playing against the system of the game which calculates the odds.
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i totally agree what have you said, but sometimes im just mad when such events lower the server numbers. these kind of events was one of the reason why riot have been started and had a bad influence for the server. but yeah, i would agree on your advice and not gonna bother with this.

panini · Jan 1, 2015

total pointless to try convince this naiv or just 1d10t ppl.
like the last egg event didnt ruined the server? when every 2nd ppl got a soul aq / soul orfen? someone already said, soul orfen before that lol event cost 6kkk after 2kkk or even less. so yes, thats just fine. at least for those naiv **s.
or that every another 2nd ppl got a blessed r99 things? ye, that was just fine too.

the point is this naiv ppl should continue to spend money for l2lamps and we will got even more ** l2store event, like this.

so many ** around, i feel like:

Negnal · Jan 1, 2015

quinter said: ↑

are u seriously comparing game with real life? go outside .. lineage it's too much for you :d
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i want tell about luck not to comparing real life to game. get a brain.

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