Lineage pc configuration

i5 2500k oc to 4.8-5.2 mgz
vga 560ti
8 gb ram
ssd.
i have a bit better then this, and on sieges fps 25, but game client lags itself.

 

why intel with nvidia and amd with ati? i have amd with nvidia and works good,and as i've heard some people have problems with "white screen" for eu client using ati cards
and 5mb means 5 mbits or 5 mbytes?for example some isps offer for normal internet connections 10mb(which is actually 10 mbits meaning around 1mbytes)

maybe bandwitch,i dunno, but hearing you say that with ssd is still this bad at sieges makes me think twice about getting one :/

 

intel with nvidia is good than intel + ati and viceversa bcoz nvidia use intel tecnology better than ati. some graphic cards can have problems if u use bad configuration (amd + nvidia and intel + ati.) normally, pcs with this configuration are pc low cost.
when i said, 5mb. little b always means bit and capital b always is byte, so, i said 5 megabits. isp providers always say u: 5mega, but dont say bit or byte.

 

nvidia was on top in 2007 since then they only rebranding cards nothing more

and the problem wasnt that nvidia used better but because major companies wrote the code specificly to be optimised in nvidia
and since ea and ubisoft turned to ati (and guess why..) guess what ati cards in high details are far away from any other.. just look 7970 how its ****** pretty much anything when it comes to raw power and tessalation

 

i remember that ati have a little issue with rendering of 3d graphic, sometimes this issue cause freez. and this only happen with intel + ati... but, i dont know that this info is "official"

 

that rumor started from anandtech site as always...

of ati had problems to render i dont think that their sales would be so high as it is..

 

haha, you know newest technologes and you don't know that name ati no more exist, there's only amd naab.
no, there won't be any problem when you will use amd + nvidia or intel + amd.
amd cpu's is very good for low and mid segment
intel is good on all price segments, but high-end intel is crushing, no competition for him yet.
amd gpu's are good in every segment, high-end is for amd, and no competition for him because of new 7970.
nvidia gpu's good in every segment, most games are better optimilized for them.
anyway, imo for lineage best configuration will be intel + nvidia. after i compared some different pc's configurations, lineage is better optimilized for them.
lineage don't really need great graphic to work well, like 560ti and higher, this engine have a lot of bmp's (images) that need fast loading may be increased via good cpu, disc, ram.

intel i7-2600k with oc (very good even without oc)
some mobo
ssd disc prefer's ocz ssd revo drive 3 pci-express 120gb 975/875mb/s read/write
4gb ram with >=1600mhz cl7
gtx 460 1gb
ocz sxs2 600w

on this pc, lineage dont have right's to get lag even in mass pvp like castle sieges after awakening.
this ssd is most expensive part of this pc, about 300-400 euro (after calculating from my value) but it's one of the fastest ssd disc ever. for example ocz vertex 3 120gb (150 euro) have max 500mb/s read, and isn't stable as this revo.

 

for 1000000000 time

l2 doesnt need 10 million cores
it needs raw power on dual or three core

 

yes, l2 dont need milion cores. lineage run's better with more cache, only high-end cpu's provides more cache, also this cpu's have 4 cores or more, i just made one of best options for lineage, ofc there may be better cpu for lineage, but it's not needed imo.

 

l2 just like unreal needs

2-3 cores max 3.0ghz or more(for l2 coz ut 04 runs even in x2 sempron)
lots of ram
a raid 0 from hdd or one ssd both has **** prices but oh well
i really wish l2 dev team ports l2 in source enginge sometime it will be great for all of us :d(dream on dream on..)

 

i really really really discourage you of running mmo games on raid0 hdd setup since the two most things that are needed is speed in access in the data, not data bandwidth. and since a raid (whatever number) increase "seeking time" and decrease iops (or iops number stay the same, tho i must put in add that i'm not speaking of professional raid controller boards), but have only pro of increasing bandwidth ...
what you need as hdd is single plate high speed head/spining disk more than multi plated hdd's (you have to know what you buy). tho for exemple it's better to run l2 on a caviar black 640 (with 640 gigs plate) than on a 1t one (2 640 gig plates reduced to 1t or even worse 2 500gig plates, or even even worse 4 250 gigs plates on old ones).
must add that since l2, even in "large aware mode" have use of lots of ram, it can go above 2 gig max alocated ram since it can't load in upper cached memory. this mean 3 to 4gig is enough.
gotta admit on high clocked speed processors more than last ones.

and you must precise that people also need a high bandwidth dma access for graphics card that must be full duplex (not half duplex like pci-express 1.0). it's more preferrable to have a graphic card running at 8x in 2.0 than a card running at 16x in 1.0 mode.

 

seek time remains the same(as a single hard disk data bw increases a lot and access time increase alot too
but problem is raid 0 isnt working for new games because of obvious reasons
for me that i want to **** load prefixs and props in hammer its a very good alternative(with a high risk ofc..) rather to buy an overpriced piece of memory

well i dont think that l2 needs 2.0 pciex tho largest single texture file in l2 is 3mb and i dont think that meshes and dynamics can reach 3gb/s rate of the controller even in 1.0 rev (atm only original crysis bottlenecked pcie 1.0 transfer rate)

 

i5-2500 (3,3ghz)
8gb ram
hdd 7200 rpm 32 mbyte (2 years old)
vga 5770 1gb ram

1650*1080 resolution! i have 15-20+ fps at sieges/aden/campaign)

first time u need 3+ ghz, then 6+ gb at least, vga isnt so important.
and last a good ssd. i have no ssd and i have 15+ fps.

 

the problem is not the bandwidth (for pci-express) but the half duplex mode of pci-express 1.0, that's why i stated that a pci-express 2.0 8x, should be better than pci-express 1.0 16x. it's the same bandwidth but in the 2.0 case it can load a texture (or multiple from ram) and at the same time recieve data from cpu (or recieve data from cpu and send packet to memory or whatever).

point is not the amount of data but the latency to get it and how much different data you can get at the same time.

 

older pci protocol didnt have full duplex pcie natively supports full duplex the problem is on the gpu side if they going to implent it


a key difference between pcie bus and the older pci is the bus topology. pci uses a shared parallel bus architecture, where the pci host and all devices share a common set of address/data/control lines. in contrast, pcie is based on point-to-point topology, with separate serial links connecting every device to the root complex (host). due to its shared bus topology, access to the older pci bus is arbitrated (in the case of multiple masters), and limited to one master at a time, in a single direction. furthermore, the older pci's clocking scheme limits the bus clock to the slowest peripheral on the bus (regardless of the devices involved in the bus transaction). in contrast, a pcie bus link supports full-duplex communication between any two endpoints, with no inherent limitation on concurrent access across multiple endpoints.

 

you don't got it and wikipedia is wrong. pci-e 1.x (any pci-e 1.x) is not full duplex, it's half duplex. the full duplex described in wikipedia is meant for the fact the stream links are bidirectionnal and can reach every point of the mother board (fully sloted with dma/irq via pci-e hardware switches and logical layer) , but they can't recieve and send at the same time. in addition, streams are synchronous, tho you can't set 5 lanes to recieve and 11 to send.

exemple directly taken from pci-sig documentation that i work for (tho i think i know well what i'm talking about, surely more than wikipedia)
http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pciexpress/specifications/pcie_base_spec_11_errata_8feb07a.pdf
http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pciexpress/base

i let you study the spec of pci-e 1.x

edit : forget to put in line that most of pre 2008 mother board have limited in capabilities of bandwidth handling switches, blame plx.

 

lol really? you poor or somethin?? unless you wanna spend 15 min to port from any town u should at least be able to afford a 2000 euro pc. gtfo poor guy.

 

with 800-1000 euro u get a decent pc that allow u walk in aden with high graphics... 2000+ euro for play lineage2? no. unless, u are a very rich boy or ur dady give u all...

 

why do you post a question when you answer it yourself? gj nab.

 

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