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Innova attitude to botting

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Brunerus, Jan 29, 2012.

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  1. Toyaga

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    they are affraid to perma ban users with pa. profits above everything else!
     
  2. copesnuff

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    cheats , exploits ---> account permaban !.
    others solutions are ---> joke

    innova failed with cheaters!

    time to innova to do respect on servers!
     
  3. zzZzz

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    first time, first time in the server, 24h ban.
    2⺠time: 30 days ban.
    3 or more times: perma ban.

    solution: 30 days ban for every botter and delvl all exp obtained during bot time.
     
  4. lioneros

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    guys, 24 hour ban for bot? are you kidding me ? should be instant perma. best ban ip as well.
     
  5. AncientEvil

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    that was just a sort of a warning, now there is 10 days for botting,unfortunately i doubt situation will change and there will be a perma ban,but it's better than nothing and when i say that i point across the atlantic if you know what i mean.
     
  6. Xanee

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    a little bit fixed!
     
  7. Xanee

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    believe me, if they will ban players who botted with pa they will get only respect from new and old people in server and some income i think, cuz people will start to trust innova




    {sorry for double post, give button to delete posts, not only edit}
     
  8. taKeshyy

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    this is a pathetic argument, since i bet alot more people that use pa will leave cause of their immature behavior towards the botting. it happened on nccrap since they launched the game (guess why it's free now?lol), do you even think it wont happen again?

    i guess this is some uber market strategy, made by "special" people, srsly.
     
  9. Testing

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    i remember before the server opened it was advertised as strictly no botting server, wasn't it? they promoted that frost thing like it was god descending from heaven. hw could they fail so hard now. did the no botting policy change?
     
  10. Arcain

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    it's a kind of warning and since frost finally detects and auto-bans people using l2t for example, all those people had last chance to cleanup their pcs. i can only agree that 24h is not enough for someone who botted for month comparing to the ones that played legit but manually catching everyone and "fixing" their exp would be a pain in the ***. pa or not, doesn't matter here, it was never a case.

    @testing, there's no such thing as bot-free server. if you block one, there's gonna be another developed anytime soon. it's a plague you can't win with, but you can minimize it and frost does it's job here. comparing to ncwest it's fine and hope it'll be even better in future.
     
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  11. _Fix_

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    yeah...true that bots will get developed and find a glitch eventually but they should have deleveled the characters that botted also not just 24h ban
    delevel them 20 lvls or so at least
     
  12. Arcain

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    i believe it's the first warning before they start the real deal with them. next time it won't be that easy, but we'll see.
     
  13. copesnuff

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    no need warning , there is rules , if innova dont apply them , innova will be an nc/clone , btw +1 to original poster
     
  14. AncientEvil

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    violation: use of software and devices emulating the user control over characters in the game, game client modification, as well as use of third-party software, e.g. l2aim, radar-programs that give a certain advantage in the game
    penalty: blocking of all characters//game account of the user at the server from 7 days to permanent blocking
    they have applied the rules with the 10 day ban and i believe a warning penalty can be applied to any type of violation
     
  15. Testing

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    everyone who's defending botters is a botter himself. how many levels have you botted ancientevil?
     
  16. Diamonds

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    they shouldve suspended them for 24^n hours, where n is the days between the first and the last bot report minus the days offline. that would suffice for the first warning.
     
  17. blu3s0ul

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    how about a title change of the char that is boting? like:i am bot or bot is here etc
     
  18. LincraL

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    and ?? you will pm him to show that you are better? blame him when he kick your *** somwhere that you loose becouse he boting? :)
     
  19. AncientEvil

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    i dunno,how many lvls can you bot?
    on topic: you are lacking knowledge of some things regarding legal matters.your perspective of the world is a very innocent one to say the least.
    innnova is probably obligated by ncsoft korea to apply certain rules and regulations regarding on how they publish their product.one of them might be use of 3rd party programs.the thing is how those rules are applied relies on innova only,as long as they can provide proof that those rules are applied, no matter how "bent" they are.
    of course you won't get a permanent ban,or god forbid an ip ban because that is just money loss.this 10 days ban is for normal players who will think twice before botting again.you don't want to lose a customer but you don't want the other customers complain about that certain customer,so first time you warn him,than you kick him out for a bit,and last resort if that doesn't solve it and ppl still complain you deny access.
    think what you will,where's money to be made there will always be a compromise.everything related to product sellers is in accordance to a marketing strategy:try to keep everyone happy
     
  20. Serafin

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    so many angry kids...

    you forget about few things, bots don't make problems, people who things that they does, does them...
    it's all you, you see game characters like "bots", you don't see people what stand behind them.

    lets first think what is cheating, cheating = be not fair to other players.

    so cheating is:
    - scram players.
    - saying that some of them are nobs.
    - attacking players with what you don't have war.
    - taking other players spot by force.
    - using software what plays instead of you.
    - using hardware what allows you to take advantage in pve/pvp [nostromo and other] (before you attack enemy on spot you should ask him if he already loaded or not, and then start fight with him by counting)
    - killing one person by a full party.
    - stay in party when you watching porn or other websites. you should leave party don't exp - it's not fair.
    - logout when you move from computer (your char taking cpu resources of server, and don't allow others to play)
    - taking other players drop (it's not yours)
    - don't pickuping drops (you making lags)
    - don't sleep - it's sicks, you should sleep.
    - having premium account or using any other items - its not fair for other players
    - and also you should be polite, ask your enemy before if he wants to fight with you...

    in short, none of us is fair to others...

    whats bots doing ? and other programs ? now when vitality don't refresh when you offline, there is huge difference between players. some of them play 24h/day, other 1h/week. and they don't use bots. whats wrong with that those players how don't have much time to play, want to get some adena/exp to be able to fight with those high lvl chars. if this won't change, you will have about 6 clans on server and anny other player won't be even able to win 1 fight in olympiad after he spend half year to get that 85 lvl (oh sorry till that time will be next update what will move that line higher).

    i'm not telling that bot is good, i'm also not telling that admins are 100% sure about these bots, 50% of them is unfair, got ban because someone loged on their chars for 5 min. also admins won't tell you what soft you used, they just suppose that, and because of this they banning. like "guilty until prove innocent", and you can't talk with they because they don't care about users, and now it looks like they don't care about cash too. and because they ban players with no showing any real prove, why should i trust them ? one day they will "detect" some illegal (for them) action from my pc and ban me. i would like to know if they know that they violate a microsoft windows license by modify windows kernel code. or when they changing user settings without inform him. lets don't say about demanding to remove files from computer...

    the only why i and my friends selected innova instead as ncsoft is small ping and timezone of sieges, instead i prefer to play in fully boted server when i know that other use bot and i can use it too when i will need insted of server when few nolife players rule it.

    happy bot'er.
     
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