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Core : Othell Ghost Hunter Olympiad Fights January 2016 [Driver]

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by DefNotMits, Feb 1, 2016.

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  1. DefNotMits

    DefNotMits User

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    What you are saying about dex is correct but what does dex had to do with p.crit rate stat?
     
  2. cantorre

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    @UniqueName im not cocky, im mad, because you are providing false information.

    either 100% or 90% of info in ur posts is either years outdated or completely false. And the problem is some new player might come here, read what u say, and repeat it, causing more and more ppl waste adena on building their char to be greatly dissappointed based on such false info.

    So just stop it
     
  3. UniqueName

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    https://4gameforum.com/threads/555498/

    Done with daggers on this server, those who want - enjoy, while it lasts. Those who knew of this - I'm sorry.

    @cantorre
    What 90% or 100%? I went through trouble of double checking, just in case. Everything I said is correct, actually 80 DEX only gives 9% and point something to your skill critical (double critical on blow). Every top dagger uses 120/125+ STR and 80/85 DEX.

    P. Critical damage affects blow damage, P. Skill critical damage affects only double critical blow damage.

    I ask again, what 90% or 100% is wrong? Or you'll PM me as Surprised too and say that Poison Zone is OP?

    The only thing I couldn't re-confirm was p.critical rate affecting blow land rate, which I am still sure it does (as for blow to land it has to be critical) and even if it doesn't, it changes nothing on what I said - the blows can and do miss (not land) often enough to be a factor in the class performance.
     
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  4. cantorre

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    well, above post, for example, is 100% false.
    can u just post where u "double checked" ?
     
  5. UniqueName

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    Skill crit:
    https://4gameforum.com/threads/22160/
    Half kill:
    https://4gameforum.com/threads/18260/
    STR/DEX
    https://4gameforum.com/threads/8726/
    https://4gameforum.com/threads/22159/
    HIT
    https://4gameforum.com/threads/25986/


    Do I need to paste ******* skype convos and flood with links outside the forum too or you'll stop? You're really becoming annoying.

    You could read some I/O and Ertheia patch notes too.

    P.S
    How the hell can you have the nerve to say "100% false", if you use giant's critical damage yourself, which is P.CRITICAL damage increase? Or Avatar/Harvey/iGotthePOWer just told you to get that and you didn't bother to question?
     
  6. fapandgame

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    I will end your trivial war on the subject.

    P. Crit Dmg raises the critical damage of othell's blows. The more P. Critical Damage you stack from jewels, augments, the better you will resemble a freight train.

    P. Critical is pve doodoo.

    DEX amount influences the chance to do a critical skill on your target; or what some of you like to call a "double critical damage hit". (And no, an othell in his right mind won't stack STR, which is patk, skill mastery, and skill duration influence i think?)


    End of discussion.


    On topic: I enjoyed the video. Good music, good usage of the giant celestial to counter evasion on the yuls, made QQbang QQ even more, proved that othell is still fun to play and it's a source of adrenaline for the ones playing it.
    Conclusion: Yuls are still a joke. Can't wait for the nerfs to come!
     
  7. cantorre

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    You actually didnt even read those tests, because they prove you wrong... Nice

    I guess this is what u based your 80 DEX = 9% chance... Even ppl in comments did the work for you - the test was done for DAGGER EXPLOSION SKILL. Ppl call it most useless test ever. But hey - i guess it helped you!!!

    I dont think we talked about half kill, so why u even post it? Cuz search function returned it?
    Here is where you prove urself wrong, because test shows that at 80 DEX you have 44% skill crit chance (and not some crazy-idea 9% LOL). Problem is they stopped test at 80 DEX. So now ur conclusion is 80 DEX is max or? Look for better test
    Here you CLEARLY have written that NOTHING influences skill land rate. Its fixed.
    Seems you didnt even read tests that u provided. So maybe for a change, you go read pathnotes? Bc I know my char, as well as those tests.
    You see, you dont understand how it works, so you dont even uderstand why I say you are wrong. To make it funny I'd say, that you dont understand what is it, that you dont understand :)
    I could explain, but you first need to study those tests and prolly make some of your own. Play a bit dagger. Otherwise its pointless.
     
  8. UniqueName

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    By all that's holy.... My comment towards giant's critical was to point out that you use a self-buff from augment which increases your blow damage, yet you said I was wrong.

    For rest I don't even have the patience anymore to write everything out in detail by this point. For all I care - I am wrong on everything, you are right on everything, you know your char and class, continue to let other people play it for you, while you post on forums.

    As for everyone else, I apologize in case I am wrong towards the p.crit rate part, but for everything else - I am correct.

    @fapandgame Thank you.
     
  9. HarveySpecter

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    This was some straight up aids convo. Btw dagger is the most consistent olympiad farmer. Probably the best besides seer.
     
  10. TheDeathAngel

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    Too bad you need to have giant celestial in order to be able to use it good:D.
     
  11. DefNotMits

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    LOL str is one of the most important stats to have on the dagger since it gives p.crit damage and still mastery so you can spam your stabs even more. About the p.crit rate part you can always go unbuffed and try to stab people, you will see your stabs will land if not exactly the same with a decrease of less than 5%.
     
  12. peking

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    @Surprised : you say that "othells are blabla" like if every single othell in the server would be like cantorre. and i really doubt this is the situation here. probably when you meet 99% of the othells at oly they are 4 marks to you and ggbb.

    not to mention that ninja nerf at othell ue, from what no info at all from innova. probably this happend after one dusting the server project...
     
  13. Surprised

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    @peking I'm not sure if you realise how the olympiad matching system works, but the othell I get are from the TOP, like cantorre, avatar, omnislash and so on. The real problem is to land the marks, which is more complicated, especially with the amount skills, items you can have, for example shirts, debuff resistance talisman (can go doubletime to 30s), or even worse scenario cantorre getting unbind 24s, what poor wynn can do about it? If even with my items I can't stand the DMG for more than 5sec... so imagine if I can't even disable the othell.
    The nerf on UE doesn't matter for othell against wynn, just saying ;p
     
  14. vvvlm

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    Wynn is literally the worst olympiad class in game
     
  15. iVoid

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    Nice video ,music sux :D Where is Mazonakis ? :D
    On last topic i must admit daggers are really insane oly farmers ,comapred to feohs let say or tanks even.

    P.S When we go bahamas mitsa? Logy pays!
     
  16. DefNotMits

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    Mute music on the video aleks and put this then if you like mazonakis. .
    This is what we do with logy's cwh money.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Cheers Mate
     
  18. Surprised

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    There's way too much factors to conclude which class is the best, and which one is the worst.

    I have my list tho:
    Sayha > Othell > Enchanter > Yul > Wynn > Eviscerator > Tyrr > Healer > Tank
    (The list might be irrelevant to the real situation, because tank could win the othell, and so on, don't try to analise it. Eviscerator is one big surprise, since we have only 2-3 of them.)
     
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  19. Anxxonymous

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    No more feoh on server confirmed by Surprised.

    You can't make lists like this , it's all about gear.
     
  20. Novirae

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    You, sir, just broke my heart with this tank :(

    Feohs are so bad at all that they can't be even called farmers. Prolly that's what Surprised ment.
     
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