specter rettributer VS specter caster+ seraph sigil ?

hi,

ok everybody is so into rettributers, and only some players buys casters.. but still, i havent seen normal info about that, and since there are no normal high rates servers to test that, there is only one thing to do - storm the forum.

my question would be, does anyone have real numbers, about m atk on theese two toys? lets take elf class foeh wizard cause it balances between dark elf and human races.
doing the count by myself, doesnt make any sence - cause all the info arround the server is messed up (for example talismans which says f.e. 10% m.atk. and just adds you random number, and its completely random, cause i couldnt get that number, taking those 10% off my prior m atk, or prior m atk without gun, or m atk from gun and so on and so on...).

so yup, share if you have any info. maybe u have private god server, and can check that stuff, share please too. maybe gm's will find some of their precious time to check this stuff, and report to people.. ill hope for the best so final questions:

1. m. atk on elf race 95 lvl foeh wizard fully iss buffed (3lvl buffs + sonatas) with +3 specter rettributer?

1. m. atk on elf race 95 lvl foeh wizard fully iss buffed (3lvl buffs + sonatas) with +3 specter caster + seraph sigil?

1. m. atk on elf race 95 lvl foeh wizard fully iss buffed (3lvl buffs + sonatas) with +4 specter rettributer?

1. m. atk on elf race 95 lvl foeh wizard fully iss buffed (3lvl buffs + sonatas) with +4 specter caster + seraph sigil?

1. m. atk on elf race 95 lvl foeh wizard fully iss buffed (3lvl buffs + sonatas) with +4 specter caster + seraph shield?

 

well i can't tell you about specter but i tested requiem retributer +3 vs requiem caster +0 and sigil and fully buffed i got 2k m atk difference (more with retributer). and since +3 give 1k m atk. lets say that the difference between them is 1k. and i am d elf feoh with emp echo.

ps - not the info that u wanted but still something

 

in case u havent noticed-caster have same attack as buster, but caster have 4.0 m.crit when buster have 8.0. so if u`re going for 1 handed weapon better go for buster(best choice for white elf feoh imho)

 

its p crit rate not m crit imo

 

lol true(ye i`m nub...). i always thoght it affects mcrit rate but i never looked stats by removing weapon

 

the thing is, there are no numbers. i remember old times, when u could check everything on l2 database, all the stats and stuff. now all its left is just guessing, and paying attention to rumours, as on first reply. real numbers + screenshots, would make this thing finally clare, and then it would be only up to ppl to make decissions.
bad that there are no java servers, and probably game masters, are busy with other (more important than guessing m atk) stuff

 

if with java severs u mean private, let me tell u that there are like 3 goddess servers working, i have enter 1 of them and i proof with all the classes and races but i didnt test that u re asking

 

i will make some tests (same equip, same buffs on items i have in core server) and if they match with that private server statistics, i will be glad to make this rettributer/caster thing clear to everyone.

 

the difference is ~1600 m atk and the retributer is +3 which is equal to ~1k m atk. so the real difference between this weapons is ~600 m atk.

 

hi thanks for supporting my research. i think there would be a little bit more difference between specter weapons.
i tried, to check that in private server, but the stats was misleading, and far away from the truth.

 

there are always bigger m.atk with retributer, even you using +4 weapon and sigil/shiel higher grade, bigger difference between setup's

 

in fact no, the higher grade, the lower difference in matk between 1h and 2h weapons

 

hmm yiam requiem caster vs requiem retributer (25 m.atk difference in weapon) and specter caster vs specter retributer (33 m.atk difference in weapon) so still its a mystery

 

needing one sponsor to get both weapons

 

so my mistake. still, the difference is not that huge and mind that with 1h u can oe both weapon and sigil/shield (which increases hp and pdef also if it is sigil). and 1h has way better double sas than 2h

 

they both can have acumen and empower, so i don't see how 1h double sa is better than 2h.

 

still dunno what to go for. i am allmost completely sure, that rettributer has bigger m atk, but when u buy caster for 60kk, u enchant it to +4 with simple scrolls, and if u fail, then what the hell, buy another one.. but when u pay allmost 500kk for rettributer, that costs way to much to get it to +4. so if +3 rettributer has bigger m atk than +4 caster no more than ~1k, i would go for caster then.
and all those rettributers, just look stupid, i mean apocalypse? which was that demon staff, c grade? ethernal light armors, "pimped" draconics?... u know what i mean

 

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kind regards.