Lf answer for my question. There is no such thing that every gamble should have visible chances in % in eu law about gambling? So there should be pointed out chances for items from chcests/tarots
TBH the problem this l2store presents is how you validate the conclusion that EU servers are DEAD. A healthy populated server with premium shop and some quantity of l2store justifies the lack of need for overpriced or powerboost items in store as the normal revenew would be enough to cover all expenses. Let's say 4 or 5 years ago there wasn't easy availability of equipable items on the store and even a GM said there would be no Raid boss jewels available through the store, ever and the server sustained itself, with better management and more active staff, but now you have less activity from staff, less caring, but somehow more money is needed to sustain everything? Only explanation is your server being dead! Eventualy your economic politics and the game design went into complete and utter **** and more people left and the playerbase can't sustain itself coz the gap betwen players is so godamn huge that either you HAVE to buy from l2store or have no interest in purchasing from l2store but not be relevant in the ingame politics, so essentially your l2store is a niche where you try to fish for big pays from noobs who willing to put 5k euro in a day in the store. Also this ramona idea was **** from day 1, i told it and say again, you split the community making core more dead, making harder to recruit anything to ur CP coz many of the geared ones went to ramona, and ramona is a ****hole too which will merge anyway with core and theyll be less geared than Core. You went for an easy cash grab with a time limit on a it. Greedy
Yeah bro, u talking about an game thats became a full cassino, and u put high prices for in a game chance, the law its behind of what u want to defend, when u stay at players side u will see that we players are talking about, is to much abusive prices for a cassino game, and the feedback here is full negative, 24h and nothing has done. So , were is the magic service from the ppl that work at official and with taxes and unbreakeable law community, till now its same insane price in this event and a i got "penalty" here on forum, bcs i most angry than you , i invest my time and a poor money here but is my money. U're in middle of fire, but u in fire to defend innova , but i need defend the players that are the most indignation with this pay to win to high. Customers ever got reason , first lesson for a big success in a company.
The unhappier we get the less money they make and even the biggest and most "stubborn" donators will get bored to death and quit in the end. This isn't a PvE-only game even though we can pretty much only PvE since PvP is dying. You guys think that those who buy everything from L2 Store and now levels too will continue to do so if there's no PvP left? They don't care about PvE they only do it because PvP might occur. Those who are PvE legends or sell/buy/trade and only do that for w/e reason, they don't contribute very much on a server, they don't make things exciting that's why people keep losing interest. This game is all about the PvP, the fights, the conflict, the trash talk!! Stop ruining our fun...
never seen % of chances of wining in any casino in europe i've been in for roulete u can calculate it yourself its 1/37, for any other game there is no % visible anywhere
For every single game you can use maths and you will get the exact chances, you just need to know a bit of cmbinatorial numbers and you can get the chances yourself
that didnt change the fact that only in roulete u can calculate your winings, try it on blackjack/poker/slots or any other casino game
BlackJack depending on cards you have you have a percent of getting the next card in the range of those you need or in range of those who would make you lose. Poker, depending on the cards you have on hand and those in the table you can calculate the chances of getting next card you need taking into account those could be also in opponents hand (but still you can limit the chance itself) and you can calculate how much average percent you have to win with your hand (you could lose even with pair of aces in your hand as it's not 100% you will win with those to pair of kings hand but still)
maybe but original my quote was about announcing %, u can calculate boxes drop also, u just need enough data to do it, so next time your clannie decides to open 500 boxes ask him to make a list of what he got having 1 box in inventory u simply dont have enough data, and u can say chance is 0.00000000000000000000001% or 99.9999999999999999% but u weren't lucky for example there are alot of videos on youtube ppl getting pvp weapon stone from tarot, that means its there and it can definitely be gained in tarots, some ppl get it from 50 some dont get from 5000.. also about blackjack, normal casinos uses not 1 but 5-10 decks at same time, that means either u have impossible calculation (not knowing what cards were drawn before u sit to that table) , or u use your prediction skills.. not knowing what cards were drawn reduces your chances in any calculation to be even slightly close to real.. lets asume u have drawn 2 heads (20 pts) and dealer has 6 and x(the face down) u would asume your chances are like 90% but that could be totaly wrong if he has like 5 there and next card is a head.. with 52 cards from fresh deck there is 8.0658175e+67 combinations to have 1 or another card.. and believe me that number is probably lower than we have chances to get smth good in tarots
this guy on ru server, wasted 13k boxes, associated math: 13k +20% => 15k bait 15k / 3k = 5 => 5 * 42 euro = 210 euro and he get no returns only junk, wow, i will hang back on this one
At least once I am starting to like this general discussion about server, because it’s not only “crying babies”, the discussion is reasoned using the facts. The thing I want to argue about is “it’s a lot harder…” …but it is not impossible! The reality is that you do not have staff for doing this, you only have staff who can calculate that if you’re losing players, you need that ones who still left would pay more to compensate the loss. Than you said that we (players) are paying for royalties, developers, artists, musicians, salaries and taxes, because it’s official server. Later you also said that project is operated under EU laws and legislation. Despite the last sentence it’s pretty clear that all decisions are made in Russia, by russian staff members, as whole Europe understands that in 21st century client who pays money must be heard. And all these clients says that the problem is not the fact of high pricing or price increase, but decisions which you make to compensate the loss of leaving clients income. And as far as we see the loss of old players and we do not see the new upcoming players it’s natural position that we see servers balancing on the line of death. Moreover people who are still playing is forced to invest more money (because of price increase, and only L2store events last period) if they want to keep server alive (like 80% of end game items are now created by L2store events and only 20% by farming). Also I do not see any responsibility here, as all L2store events this summer period is just lowering players population and repeating this kind of events seems just a good business to get additional money before project will be closed. As it’s only time question when there will be not enough players to pay for above mentioned support segments of devs. Also this comment shows clearly what every one thinks silently: Today business is to make big grabs at any price, despite the hate of players community. Same things with L2store events. Next thing… "CM Fragola said: ↑ Balance is a process, with recent update mages became damage dealers again, for example." I can‘t be too big critic on this thing, because it‘s totally devs decisions, but we must agree that it‘s bad decisions. I would like to add also that we have virgo agathions, so fighting pt vs pt you can have like 9 rebirths during short (or long) period of time. This is a „must change“ thing, as feohs now plays not as damage dealers, but also as tanks.
on casino no but on virtual casino it is mandatory to show /say it somewhere i think and since l2store virtualy becam a casino it should be .....maybe the best way to know is to put a legal procedure in luxembourg justice cours and voila.
I have a legit question @CM Fragola Now a days with epics/brooches/ soon dragon weapons an account can be worth as much as a new car, but what will happen if someone put 10-20k€ into the store and then the servers close? Will he/she get a payback cuz he/she been just renting the items ? I mean in the old l2 without l2store it was way easier, ppl played an account and got items dropped or what ever, but now 95% of endgame items are legally bought with real money
Its their intelectual property and everytime you login by pressing agree you approve that. @CM Fragola Also theoretical questions. Does Innova Co. Sarl is registered under gambling statutes in Luxembourg? Does it own gambling license? Since you just bragged that you pay your diligence to everyone perfectly and private server devs are badboys for life. Do you pay taxes as they should be paid? Because this projects profits comes purely from gambling, not subscription services of players. I would like to see, how your lawyer sweat when few letters have been sent to Luxembougs tax authorities to take a detailed look into what you guys have been doing for last years. Underaged non licensed gambling. You guys are just as bad as private sector server owners you just wear a badge that says IM VERIFIED doesnt make you any better.
Yes, cuz they just up and started the firm without thinking about that ? Not only does innova not owe you anything if they decide to close the servers right this second, but they don't pay taxes for gambling because they aren't a gambling company. But since we are all lawyers here we can probably make them give us each 1 stage 3 Dragon wep.
Guys, why ask questions, the game is as it is. You choose if you wanna buy stuff from l2store, or not. It is as simple as that
I'm not a lawyer to answer those questions, please address eu.4gamesupport.com for official replies on this matter.
Because I like this topic I must include one sentence: Lineage 2 official is the most P2W mmorpg game worldwide and it dosent matter if its ncwest version or innova
Well some people including myself wanna know if its still worth to put money into l2 store, so my question still stands What if someone put 10k into store and he still hast lets say 2 years game time , what if servers close? He paid in store to use those items, but theres no timeframe on it, so its not clear To just close an server as someone said before, i think its not that easy for them since the ftp update, before ok u only paid a monthly fee and ebay was illegal anyway, but now with store its legal
