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L2 store investments going where?

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Yunalesca, Oct 16, 2017.

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  1. Rahen

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    First of all, @TranpeGG , trying to downgrade people like this is not very mature, but I wouldn't expect any less from someone crying in this thread.
    And second of all, what you think you are demanding here is completly out of Innova's and most of EU players' control. Being unable to see this is just sad for you.

    What @akaaWins said in an earlier post is sadly true, the few big donators are the ones that ruined the game for everyone, they are the ones that created the gap by abusing of the store.
    If everyone was using the store responsibly, like the majority of the playerbase, the servers would be more enjoyable for everyone.

    Now, instead of crying to Innova's staff, that is already kind enough to answer in this kind of thread, spread the good words to the players themselves, cuz they are the only ones able to make any server good, or bad.
     
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  2. Kuryl2

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    You should check russian forums after each l2store update, this is negative feedback not like here 1 or 2 pages.
     
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  3. TranpeGG

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    You think we don't know Innova can't do !@#$ ? However, one of Innova's job is to send feedback to Korea, that's why EU people use EU forum instead of Korean, too hard to understand @Rahen ?
    I can't blame big donors for abusing L2 Store as long as the server is healthy since it also helps the market too, although the devs enable that behavior by continuously introducing game-breaking p2w events.
    But today I blame the whole player base that keeps supporting our deteriorating servers, not only the big donors but all of us, as long as we keep feeding them nothing will change.
     
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  4. akaaWins

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    Im playing retail L2 since 2006. Durring this time i played NA, EU, RU, KR regions and belive me, playerbase of EU is THE MOST toxic out of all these. And im not saying toxic because you are putting negative feedback on everything. No, not that. But what you do in game is a minor factor in rating community toxicity. You EU guys win it on every matter. Also, you are putting negative feedback EVEN on events where you do NOTHING and you het rewards. Either small ones like coins or bigger one like zodiac agathion or other lottery rewards. How can you be negative there?

    Negative feedback and being toxic are two different things. Come on, look at morons like this MCTrooper on hero chat or core noobs insulting each other after winning a pvp. In RU, its really barely visible to see such a thing, someone wins pvp, gg and bye instead of 2 hour hero chat insults.

    I myself put a negative feedback on l2 store updates. Innova is greedy, yes. They do EVERYTHING to maximize profit before this game dies and thry do it mostly without a clue but yet, they preffer money over players. If u had a choice to give joy to few players or drive a brand new BMW M3, what color would be ur BMW?
     
  5. Rahen

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    @TranpeGG

    The game breaking items introduced in the game are not the problem bro, if everyone had them, then the game would still had some kind of balance.
    If everyone was using the store responsibly, then you wouldn't see some people with everything and people with nothing.

    The people putting 10k euros in on event while the other 90% put only 50 euros, is what created the gaps and pushes people to loose faith and leave servers.

    Just think about it.

    Edit: I'm not saying here that NCsoft/Innova is totally clean, because of course, they allowed in their store system such extreme use/donations. And I think it's a good thing that people give feedback if something is wrong, but the solution is elsewhere in my opinion, I'm not sure where exactly, but elsewhere.
     
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  6. TranpeGG

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    @akaaWins all this "toxicity" probably comes from bad/nerfed f2p events(not talking about all) and game-breaking p2w events, it doesn't mean it's a totally negative thing though considering EU servers have the lowest populations cause many EU playing on NA.
    @Rahen you simply cannot understand that the devs enable this abusive behavior, for example a casino doesn't rely on gamblers to play responsibly that's why it enforces bet limits on some games and on some others it doesn't.
    And guess what, L2 Store almost never has any kind of limitations, not only that but to make a high-end item like dragon weapon stage 1/2/3, sayha tali lvl 10, full set of lvl 6 brooches etc costs way too much, thus the big gap players between.
    That's why we are here talking like people do in every region, to help devs and publishers figure out a solution, if of course any of them care enough.
     
  7. Rahen

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    I understand what you're saying, and you got some good points.

    I was only trying to answer to the non constructive hate like 'where is my money going?', 'enough with the store', etc. There are solution for people wishing to play w/o store, classic for example.

    An actually great idea would be such purchase limitation or ceilling not only for each permanent item, perhaps per month or something, but also for each event as well.
     
  8. Arbogast

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    Go get some sense. For everything in this world you need to make rules. If rules are bad -> you go in deep ****. Innova has bad rules, allows l2store abusing and you blame players? Are you serious or just trolling?
     
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  9. Rahen

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    True dat @iBane , I didn't mean to make it sound this way, I do agree with you.
    I was trying to answer people that were only 'crying' and 'hating' without giving constructive feedback, but I do realise that it came out slightly wrong, my bad.
     
  10. TranpeGG

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    @Rahen IMO limits shouldn't be on how much L2 Store someone can buy, rather how much some items cost to complete. I believe that since the game is heavily based on L2 Store it's a good thing that some can buy a lot because it adds gear in the market.
    @iBane +1 we can't blame players for L2 Store abusing since it's allowed by the devs/publishers, but I think we can when they support(with L2 Store) those bad decisions and rules(like you said) that forced tons of people to quit.
     
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