[25.01.2018] PvP tournament - pros and cons

Well, i have a feeling people like LuckyLuciano or Cmec are not gonna participate at tournay, no matter what will Fragola do with it. Blessed items, PVP Items, Brooches, no brooches, no matter, those people will not participate.

U can read their posts, they are continuesly trashing everything, bringing negative emotions to every topic and trying just demoralise everybody with their sad problems with everything.

They were arguable shuted down, and than they always bring some negative emotions with new topics and after they are again arguably shutted down, they again bring new negative moods everywhere.

Its kinda hard to defend everything what going from their mouth.

Basically, i think for people who wanna participate, will participate under no matter what curcimstances, people who doesnt wanna participate, will not. In the end, it will be equal.

It just would be sad, if because of equipment we will go back 4 years and we will make it based on reflect damage, on 101 archer skills killing everything with 1 shot without possibility to defend etc... Problems we had in older chronicles and we all hated it.

 

+1 for event, no item restriction

 

So u invented even pvp tournaments? Ppl like you are supposed to have message limit 1 per week. My eyes are bleeding.

 

Arguably shut down hahahaha it took 2 people to teach you basic math calculations and you with hax still didnt get it...

oh right it was daggers now reflect and archers...but when u want it to make it all Feoh fiesta with reflect skill and unlimited mana pool which is soo much better right?

 

no, we tried to teach you guys the game, but failed because you can't teach a wall smth

 

The gear hasn't been decided yet. I'm carefully reading the thread to gather all possible opinions on that.

As for levels, I think of setting it to 105 as it's the level where the characters can use their full skill potential in the current chronicles.
I'm also considering putting 4th class skills only as it's the way the game is designed to be (no 3rd class skills).

 

What about olympiad , is it confirmed that its only 7v7?

 

Giving characters level 110 could work aswel, for the AP. As for how important that is or if participants want it..

 

My suggestion is // Gather 14-21 ppl make some tests with GM see for what it is

+1 For 1v1 olympiad

 

Copyrights dude !

 

What the **** is that test lol...
Supposed to test one parameter while the item has influence all across the board (Pdef, raw stats, elemental resistance, and w/e fishy stuff the devs wanted to put in there). If you want to show off a test, do it correctly at least
Are you doing the tests for Innova with the experimentarium ?

Items most probably do what they say, excluded the obvious typos and translation errors we seen in the past. The problem is that it doesn't mean anything because noone knows how the FULL formula works.
For the analogy, it's like saying rapso doesn't double your damage on mage, so it doesn't work as description say (actually fun fact, rapso doesn't double Matk, there is a delta, because some stuff or clan skills or w/e come in calc after the rapso and isn't multiplied, don't ask me why, check it ). This is clear to anyone how the Matk to damage works (well... almost...), but when it's up to actual PvP defense the formula is WAYYYYYYYYYYY less clear.


As for the tournament itself, Arri got really good point to me, and I couldn't say it better. That plus the overwhelming number of parameters makes it quite impossible to balance. Tournament possibility is quite interesting, but in current state of the game ? Just meh...

 

It's like logy said, you cant change pdef/mdef and test it perfectly fine. The attribute we have neglected on barrier rose test with opal6+fish agathion.

Conclusion is the same anyways, no matter what. and the 150 pdef on CL cloak or whatever it has, won't matter in the scale shown in the video

 

Well, same test with Obsidian for example would have been way more interesting. Also now that I think about it, clan leader cloak should just not be included in the tournament anyway, so meh
And maybe that 150 Pdef on cloak is important ! You read 150, while it's actually mutiplying by 150/100 the effective Pdef ! 50% pdef + 15% dmg reduction, 65% dmg reduction ! I broke the formula !
Ok ok, I know the way => []

 

we did. Obsi 5 gave more reduction than cloak, for whatever reason

 

if all end game gear incoming for this "pvp event" give lv3 dragon weapons for all participants... at least fights wont be so long.. not more than 2mins..

 

When you tested cloak reduction, did you have obsi equipped? And when you tested obsi, did you have cloak equipped? Ofc considering all other same items were equipped.

 

Core has a lot of great players who can offer a great watching pleasure of nice competition! I will fully support this project to show that our game is still on! Lets hope this will be a new era and EU innova will take it seiriously for a yearly or why not a 6 month one ( depends the updates and metas ofc ) tournament project. Lets see some gold names!!! <3

 

i removed both respectively and simulated the attribute change with 30 attribute agathion. (still 10 diff but i dont have anything giving 20 def)

 

Full toons lvl 105 with all possible items in game on max lvl.

The only things i would not put is dragon weapon and brooch br ( only would allow brooch br if you add one rule, can be casted just one time per match )

1 dd class per party.

Full stacked toons vs full stacked toons.

 

+1, but I'd add one modification, it's just an example, so the numbers can be changed.

Let's say there're 12 lv6 jewels to choose for the entire party, and 30 lv5 jewels. That means party can decide if they wanna go for 2 brooch rapso lv4, or split it and have 3 brooch rapsos lv2, and so on.