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Whats the Future Plans of Innova with Core / Ramona

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by BeFair, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. Padj1l

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    So let's put all l2store aside, since it's pretty clear you understand what we think about it.
    How about simplifying drastically the access to all pve items for new players ? I know this requires so game changes but it could be a reasonable request to the devs maybe.
    At the moment let's be honest, there's no way for a new player that's not gonna spend hundreds to get a reasonable gear to have fun in a reasonably long amount of time, and hwile having fun. Top pvp items can remain on as they are, aka very l2store oriented, but you could try to hook the players with pve items.
    Get better droprate on r95-99 crafting packs if needed ( not sure ) , maybe implement some scrolls to get easy +6 sets, drop pve armor stones on tauti/etc, pve weapon stones on epic tauti for example. Make it so that people could feel like they can farm something valuable and improve their gear, at least to the point where they can pve properly in the endgame zones. And then if they wannabe competitive in pvp, they might want to use store.
    All these items I listed above will be complete non factor in pvp anyway and won't change the balance in so much I think. It's just an idea, not much though behind it so maybe it's flawed but I don't know, I think you seriously need to make the player feel like he can gear up from the start without donating thousands, at least pve wise.
     
  2. gothic84

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    Well, right now server is only playable for top donators.
    There are no middle tier clans except NF and DDZ. For middle tier ppl there is nothing to do here.
    No other clans to have war with. No point to make instances since there is no drop.

    There is ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE to even dream of fighting top donators.
    donators party can easly wipe out rest of the server. 1 party can easly wipe out the rest of the server (by rest of the server I mean everyone except TH and EN).

    So whats the point to play this game here for someone who is not planning os spending thousands of euro?
    Farming instances changes nothing. Still 1 hit for donators.
    Previously mid tier ppl had their fun fighting each other. Mid tier clans like Ecarlate, BA, Castigadores, NF etc.

    Now is not fun at all.



    And Fragola stop telling that Innova is working on getting new ppl, because without better drop and less l2 store you can do nothing.
     
  3. Alarion

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    and meanwhile more and more ppl move to classic. I wonder why? xD btw If I read after 3 years my CP quited core they "thinking " to do something with click festival to dragons when at my time it was already big issue and 1 of few reasons we decided to quit I wouldn't have much hope guys. just look at big picture how is situations how how it was changing in last 3-4 years :)
     
  4. LuckyLuciano

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    What really would be good if you actually posted your idea and "work in progress" to people so they better understand what you are up to and give more specific feedback.

    As for Core/Rammona, the only thing that's good out of it, that people can farm more raids/dragons on 2 servers. When there are 2 servers with low population, dim siege brings really nothing what merged servers would bring during normal sieges.

    Also does it mean, that there will be no fishing event as per Event planner for Q1 2018?

    What people want is a progression from 95+ as there is currently a black hole and once paulina expires, they are back in S grade set. You can make some money running zakens/freya/oly and a few other ways, but that is still pocket money for what you need to be able to do 101+ instances. And problem is you provide a lot of exp events, so people accelerate to those levels and end up having nothing else except naked 99-101 toon.

    Classic grows because you can actually make your own gear and farm while also lvling up. On core you cant farm anything not in any meaningful way at least.
     
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  5. Hater

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    this is strictly my opinion and my observations after playing L2 on various servers since the beginning, on more or less every chronicle:

    old l2 was far better, recently i started playing on classic, after years of GOD+ chronicles, i have to say, it took me 2 days to hit lvl 20, took me 2 hours to do scavanger quest, limited money at that level, no grade gear - but i was happy, even though lvling is a ***** and i had nearly no buffs and everything was slower, i had a sense that i accomplished something, plus, i figured i can start finding ppl to party with, to go spoil to make some adena, to gear up, there is actually A REASON to form groups and lvl up together; when i got to MDT and saw the market with all sorts of items it brought up good memories, you can actually SELL what you farm. Basically i just feel like there's more to do on classic and it's more based on merit, you have to work for stuff there, wallet can only get you so far if you buy adena from RMT.

    I am leaving Ramona currently, i just don't have what to do on that server. Friends asked me to join them on core, and i will, but only because they are there, play style and the thought of being 1 shotted doesn't sound very cool, and as for things to do .. same instances, **** to no drops, maybe some open field, and no matter how much you work for things there, you will still be 1 shotted, you will never catch up, you will never accomplish anything important. I just don't see any goal for normal players on this new chronicles. As for new players .. what are they supposed to do if they don't have full wallet or daddy wallet? this is just for gameplay.

    Let's move on to another painful realization:

    Again, in my opinion, first change you have to make - hire competent staff. Both Core and Ramona economy systems are **** (Ramona more so). Find a person who can actually negotiate with devs to bring changes that would be good for Europe, then maybe servers would not be emptier by the day. Then find some proper GMs. Not sure if you remember, i mentioned once before on discord some time ago what answer i received when i asked for my account to be verified cause i felt i wasn't getting enough xp with maphr scrolls (in case you forgot, the gm in question told me maphr is for luck, not for xp). And really, there are several well known botters and 3rd party soft users, you mean to tell me they were never caught and banned? I mean, since there is suspicion, i would expect someone to check on them from time to time ... or it may be just coincidence that the same ppl that break the rules are also the highest paying customers? In any case, doesn't seem fair to the rest of us who never used 3rd party softs, i mean, what's the point of working hard to get something, if you can just cheat? Losing my will to play when i see those ppl (and we all know who they are, except innova staff apparently...) running around day by the day, 1 shotting entire parties ...

    Another thing .. why do you ask us to help you provide a service that we are paying for? L2store and PAs etc .. this free to play is mostly a joke that no one believes anymore. It's like i go to a restaurant, and the waiter asks me to help him bring the food from the kitchen. And we go back to what i said previously, if things are not working like this, wouldn't it be more effective bringing on board people who know this stuff and maybe they can salvage something? I mean, sure you can ask for opinions, but fact is, 99% of what people will say is more or less personal opinion, we don't know your situation as a franchise, most of what people suggested was shut down cause you cannot do this or that because you are not allowed and you do not receive permissions.

    Sorry for my long and frustrated rant, i just feel that you need to fix this as company to company, YOU have to find the right people to convince the devs to make changes for EUROPE, if you don't, your business will eventually suffer as well. And the players will suffer. But the players will move to NA or to private servers, or stop completely. Hope i managed to make my 2kkk cents understood. Best of luck to fix things from me.
     
  6. goduole

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    Fixes and changes made during maintenance on 07.02.18:


    Nice innova , even at first steps of new players ur atittude is pay or dont play.. No hope this company
     
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  7. xXGuliverXx

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    There are no chance for this community to raise again.
     
  8. BeFair

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    As i said, it seems like someone in that staff or from devs or who ever try hard to kill this game, otherwise all of this is not possible lol
     
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  9. St0ne

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    Its not like u didnt know its only for pa use for some period.
     
  10. goduole

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    02.18 notifications and not bother my :D but for new players. I got pm from one guy whic ask me how to lvl up fast 1-85, i said that use balthus knight and then he told me that he need to buy pa to use this.. so he probbaly left alredy.
     
  11. Prophano

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    what a horrible face. prevent new players from entering your server. Why do you want money to get into Path of Balthus Knights .. a european server, who is well regarded by all to take such actions and a shame. I was going to transfer my clan here with 164 player. But I'm sorry, I can not because we need to pay to pay more ridiculous bye
     
  12. Cordana

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    You can do Balthus Knight when you have PA...you want to play without it ? nice joke you can never catch even low clans without PA
     
  13. goduole

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    Its not about this option, its about atitude for new players, pay to lvl up or fish.. what they win removing this option no idea.. and its new chronicle option so duno later may they decide remove enter kartia without pass to get few cents from store..
     
  14. Cordana

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    But from the begging this option was only for $$$ on each server, we have it free from 2 months and have included in PA, at NA you must pay extra for it everytime you do it