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[11.02.2018] Community Feedback on everything

Discussion in 'Team Blog Archive' started by CM Fragola, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. fapandgame

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    Here is some random feedback for you:

    When are we going to see the Aries agathion's 'Rocky Camouflage' skill fixed already ?

    After the skill effect there is a brief moment where you cannot see the character once it comes out of the polymorph state, and clicking the position where the target was a split second ago does nothing most of the times, since the target has moved from there already, obviously. This makes it rather difficult to have proper continuity/flow in PvP if you were expecting to dispatch said target easily after the state, and continue the action...
     
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  2. St0ne

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    KR and EU have massive diffrences now and in the past.
    Sometimes it seems like two diffrent games.
    So go figure.
     
  3. _Melo_

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    @St0ne
    What are those "massive diffrences" ?
    And are they good difference or bad ones?
    i`m asking because i cant read the kr site not even with google translate.
    Since we need a massive differences on Eu servers maybe they can copy kr style if is good.
    So can you share that "massive diffrences" Please
    Thank you
     
  4. Fragola

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    Innova isn't allowed to make any changes to the game and all code come encrypted, so Innova has 0 game devs. All game changes are made at KR side. So we send the tickets reporting bugs (found by our QA and reported by users), we send tickets requesting any new functionality (brooch jewels at mammon) and localization issues. All overseas territories (Japan, Taiwan) do the same. Then all issues get prioritized by the overseas dev team and if implemented/fixed, they ship us the changes so we could install it during maintenance.

    The fixes come as patches to server side or client side. They come with the description (the one I usually put at maintenance changes) and we have the server engineer to apply it.

    Innova team has only web devs that develop the website and implement 4game account<->server account integration (with the help of KR devs, of course) and that's all. Ah, and Frost devs.

    Was excluded from our version after hard negotiations and "KR blessing" by the KR devs.

    Events are developed in KR, we get the range to choose from and description of mechanics. We can suggest rewards but they must be approved by KR and then implemented to our event settings by the KR devs.

    The settings of the items (can/cannot be traded/dropped/used at oly etc.) are hardcoded in the client and can be changed only at KR side.

    Yep, it is covered at Innova side (Frost system).
     
  5. _Melo_

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    @CM Fragola
    So basically innova team cannot do much without the approval of Kr side.
    @Innova team
    Keep spamming kr side with ideea until they allows you to modify the game in a way that is more friendly to all type of players the new ones, the old ones the casual players, the hardcore players.

    Maybe after the launch of the game "The Project TL" they will be more willing to allow innova team to modify Lineage 2 since they will be more focused on the new game.
    Until then......stay strong :)
     
  6. mYzor

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    What we have right now is the skeleton of an (oldschool) MMORPG. Excessive amounts of grind and excessive amounts of RNG.
    If they (NCSoft) wanted this game to be somewhat "fixed" then they would get a team of capable developers to make meaningful (as in, rewarding and fun) content for the game. This is one of the biggest problems with the game.
    I dont see them spending money on good developers when they can keep their EoLC staff and have a game that is still making a good amount of money.
    Other than that, maybe, since INNOVA's servers are relatively bot free, tell them to stop enforcing their (stupid) anti bot nerfing on us.

    PS: Some people expect Fragola to go talk with NCSofts developers, snap her fingers and turn into Bayonetta and force them to do .. stuff.

    Guess what, INNOVA cannot go into NCSoft's HQ and act like they own the place, all they can do is kindly and politely ask for stuff.
    NCSoft, ultimately, has all the power. And at the worst, they could go full ****** and remove INNOVA's licence to publish this game. Meaning we as players get screwed, as we can either not play or have to go to NCWest (worse than not playing), and INNOVA loses business partner (with all that it comes with. money, reputation, etc).
     
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  7. tabelata

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    long story short:
    there's no light at the end of the tunnel. game is doomed.
    /quit
     
  8. SK111

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    Sorry but i don't understand all of this crying.
    First of all Fragola is answering to you. Elsewhere the only answer you will get is a 7 days ban.
    Second every time you hit the l2store button you are saving your own real money.
    My bad I've used an outdated convertor.
    Every time you purchase 100 agation boxes you are saving 265 euro.
    When it comes to jewels you are saving 300 euro every 100 boxes.
    When it comes to shirt well elsewhere you can't buy them untill they allow you to do so.
    You have to compare what the market is offering to you.
    I think you don't understand at all what's the difference.
    You are talking about details.
    Elsewhere the ppl are suggesting to spend more if you want to have some luck
    since 2.000 $ aka 1.628 euro aren't enough to get a radiant stone to move a circlet from the noble status to the radiant one.
    Who in here can afford more than 1.628 euro just for a single stone?

    Now is innova l2 worth playing? to me yes if i compare it to the other l2 the market is offering.
    Has innova l2 to be improved? To me yes.
    First of all the population.
    Second the fact that elsewhere you can run 3 clients for free.
    Try to add that feature without paying a fee and you will see that elsewhere someone will have to close some server if not all of them at once.

    And i was forgetting to post the most hilarious thing.
    When an event occurs elsewhere we have to post in there Fragola's instructions so we can get a clue of what's supposed to be going on. Just lel
     
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  9. -V77-

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    Long story short:

    Innova as a shark of bussiness made a deal that they pay license for game and they need give to KR % of l2store!

    as for me it is fake info just to keep us away that they cannot do anything, to us stop complain...
     
  10. _Melo_

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  11. DeadlyIllusion

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    enchanting circlet to +5 three times costs 2k $ ?
    what is the chance then ?
     
  12. yLogy

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    @CM Fragola
    Frost developers are employees of same company as U?
    Or are they from different company and just managing frost system for Innova?

    Why do u (they) have problems to block only 1 3rd party software ( a********e) and another seems to be blocked?

    Why do u (they) have problems to block some gaming devices?
    Razer synapse working for example, microsoft sidewinder devices are blocked, software remapping of keys blocked etc...
    Why there exist those differences in similar software, but 1 company is blocked, 2nd one isn't...?
     
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  13. Fragola

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    It's almost like asking - why antivirus doesn't block all viruses. If you dig on this matter deeper, you'll see there's no perfect protection against everything. All major companies have issues with cheat protection and it's like constant virus-antivirus fight. The option (Frost) we have is better in our opinion than others available on the market.
     
  14. iAris

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    anyway, there is no point of asking things about current situation.
    You have put questions what players want and needs to done ,addressed in a current game. you have a clear vision what do we want/ or atleast something can be done. And hopefully we will hear some update from innova about this

    thanks
     
  15. yLogy

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    Yes, but also protection from others ( private servers ) can detect most popular software on Core atleast for a while, until company make a fix. But in this time, they detect it and ban it. On private server propably not so big deal, but if u could be able to do this, it gonna be more effective on official servers, still i dont think u did some banhammer, so its really hard to say if Frost is working better, since u have almost no results against most popular 3rd party software and most popular gaming devices...

    And tell me 1 virus, about which antivirus company know it exist and its still working without any modifications. So comparing viruses with 3rd party software isnt really relevant, because viruses are detected, but there are always new and new viruses evolved.... but u just need to detect 3rd party software once and ban user and game over in most cases.

    And still question nr. 1 - Is Frost self working company managing protection for Innova or is Frost part of Innova organisation?
     
  16. Hax

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    They recognize all old virus which are public. Privte version of said software may not be blocked so easily but the public version should get patched every day or every 2nd if they really cared
     
  17. khaot

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    Fragola explain me 1 thing. If someone is banned on Core(Innova) and can play on Ramona (Innova), its ok or u just dont care but care about only money?

    My opinion: they dont care, just money money money....no game fair play no fun, just money
     
  18. goduole

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    Its more then ok :D
     
  19. cmec1

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    They don't ban ip.. Other acc and there's no problem.
     
  20. Fragola

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    If some account is banned, it cannot access both servers.
    Although, players can create other accounts and play without violation.

    It was said multiple times that we don't block "people" from accessing the game, we only block accounts.

    IPs can be dynamic and shared, they also are not an identification of people. So in order to not cause problems for users of the same network, we don't block IPs.