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Suggestion and ideas for a better new server that will last.

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Narelin, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. Narelin

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    Hello everyone players and Staff of Innova @CM Fragola so today i decided to to make a post with my ideas and suggestions about how to have a stable server with a good revenue to keep the servers online,pay your checks,etc and also keep us players happy and active.For all us players i know it's a long post,but if you're intrested you can spare few minutes of your life read it and contribute with new ideas or suggestions about the game we love,you never know,maybe they will listen or say hey it's good idea we should try it.

    First of all i'd like to adress the "Lineage 2 Store" Problem that currently in my opinion is killing our beloved game and turning it into ghost servers,which eventually will result of a decision of ending the Lineage Servers.As we all witnessed ramona was thriving before L2store promotional items went live,after that the server start dying also it was a mistake to put jewels from the start.We all do understand that to keep the server open and to have your salaries you need to have a way of getting your paychecks but Promoting items with 0.0001% chance of getting something,is tricking people to to buy it whatever the matter because subconsciously they feel that there is a chance and you never know,maybe i'll be lucky.It's a plain gambling machine like casinos are running.(Also i believe Innova as a company is getting greedy,they know that they can milk the big whales and they are doing it,as all other official server does it also,but here i'm dreaming and hoping that maybe the developers and the people inside Innova that cares about the game maybe will have a wake up today and think it otherwise, cause as we all know the game wasn't like this years ago and was thriving). So again a buissness plan that can be taking under consideration:

    1)Make a subscription based server like "Classic" with a exclusion that ppl will have still Premium Account but both subscription and Premium Account Should be with lower prices.For example think about this: 5Euro Sub + 5Euro Premium Account. PA wont give though a second window to open so we'll need to make it more appealing to the costumers by adding something else instead of it maybe a wonderous cube like another official ncwest has.

    2)You can keep L2 Store with a condition of now having at all promo items,it should be with only minimal items which are not game breaking but we players will still be buying for example:
    a)xp/sp,drop rate,eva rune and etc
    b)Clan Name change, Name Change,Chaos Essence,Dual Essence,Gender Change,Race Change etc
    c)cosmetics, any cosmetic u can think about, dark assassin,elegia armor,school uniforms,Ninja outfit,samurai,white noblesse etc
    d)Enchant items scrolls and etc
    e)Misc items, Turtle Ascetic,Kartia Passes Etc

    Till now that are the first things that are in my mind about l2-store hope others will help also with few suggestions and ideas of their own.

    Now you'll say how the hell can we have the promotional items if they won't be in l2-store? My answer to that is via game play only,players that will play and put some effort to it and not just be Visa Warriors.
    Take a look at Longing Talisman when it came in first they were obtainable via energy of destruction and giants energy, which i believe it's pretty much satisfying cause people was gaining energy of destruction x2 each day by going to do their dailies, and giants energy via Clan Hall or Vial Olympiad Every Friday & Saturday etc, so they had to play and make it.Why not to implement it to jewels,circlet,cloaks and etc with different ways of gaining, and maybe put some of them from raid drops?
    In that way people will have to make parties, fight for spot, or farm in certain areas or just doing oly,or maybe why not by fishing also?There are many different ways that we can do.

    Overall till now i've thought of these only,but in time i'll be posting few more ideas and suggestions.
    I hope i wont get troll answers and etc from the community that is still here, though it's dying also cause lot of use went to Classic or other official servers or stopped from the game.We (players and devs/CM) need to find a solution to our problem,cause like it now in few years, maybe not even years nothing will be left cause of our greediness and overlooking others.

    PS: I have a lot more to write and tell i'm just out of time and will be posting this for now, to see also what the community is thinking.
    PS 2: Don't criticize and join to make our gameplay better.
    PS 3: Sorry if i have few english errors

    Best Regards,
    Narelin​
     
  2. Hax

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    Problem is L2store and korean developers want more money from few ppl than less money from more ppl.
     
  3. Narelin

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    The thing is,if innova team will do a right suggestion by explaining that with that and that and that you maybe have less l2store but more income, maybe they will think a buissness play like that, the problem here is that innova need to be ballsy and have a discussion with them and explaing it that to them. else EU servers will be in a very bad situation in few months, they are already in a bad situation... i've logged in ncwest just to see how it's and there are more eu players than on Innova servers... for sake god.. wtf? xD
     
  4. Necrosia

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    Your ideas are good, but you know there is only one thing in their heads...AVARICE
     
  5. Hax

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    they dont make more money without l2store.
    Subscription based l2 has what? maybe 2 to 3k ppl online each 10 euro

    l2store some ppl spend 1k euro themselves.
    avg player in top clan spends maybe 200 euro, some non top clan ppl spend also same or more.

    So possible 20k euro vs 200 ppl spending 200 euro its alrdy 40k.

    so 200 donating ppl vs 2k live on subscription model = 2x the income and less customer service spent (and weaker infrastructure)
     
  6. Eyon00

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    Your ideas are whack bro no offense, do you really want both subscription fees AND premium account fees AND l2-store albeit limited? The only financially feasible payment structures are freemium aka Core/Ramona you can play for free but you can buy stuff with l2-store and get perks through premium account or Sub-only without premium or l2-store like the Classic server.
    What fragola should do is ask around and talk with people responsible and those that have the data in the company to analyse if a different project can be created with a more limited l2store and maybe heavier focus on premium account perks but even then that would be a lot of work and since there is no precedent on the Korean servers with different drop-tables and exp-tables that would fit in such a system it is practically impossible for anything to happen. I am curious to see if any other plans are in the works after the merge.
     
  7. Narelin

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    i totally agree, they are greedy, but they should have seen it by now with their fail of ramona, that they need to do some changes and try something different. else we are all doomed.
     
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  8. Necrosia

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    I TELL you my theory, they ****** ramona, now the plan is **** core, when corer is dead in 2 months they open a new server that start from zero.....and thet do cash again

    gms:before tou say it is false infromation, read well....is a theory XD
     
  9. TheQQmaster

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  10. Hunna

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    In my opinion you should do like other games do. Put subscription like 10 euros per month, the store should be filled only with cosmetic things and you will reach a good result. You will get players + servers will have people and bingo you have people enjoying the game, the hardcore scene of the Lineage 2 is really good, but L2Store puts a big gap, people will quit because even if they have waste money on Premium Account they won't get anywhere, they are just wasting time and money and still can't even 1v1 anyone. That's simple, all the games i've played when they have subscription its so much fun its so much balanced. There are people that live their lives on games that's a fact and that's why they will always have the upper hand, but its not that good to P2W. I played when Ramona opened and now after 1 year i think you are closing the server already? Of course you will close the game, players don't have a chance, i've played for 12 hours per day on the 2 first month of the game and i was no near the top level donators, no near! You know what it is wasting 12 hours of your day and you still get 1 shooted and can't farm anything? That's unreal man... That's frustrating, after 4 months of playing i still had Dynasty Armor man, the only item i could get was a R-95 2H weapon and put it only +5. Playing 12 hours per day had me like this, i eventually quitted the game, i even had a CP but we couldn't get anything from the dungeon drops, Kartia drops were awful, i couldn't even make adena for Kartia passes.