Is it true that Lineage is dead, not wort to play, etc.?

K85 is quite easy to find pt. Harder for teredor but just because it gives low exp and drop, but if you open a party room, you'll see ppl join for sure

 

Day 8



87-88

The day was quite familiar with Day 7. Started with Kartia labyrinth. Afterwards, new Adventures Guide quest in Fairy Settlement gave really nice XP and some extra adena. Doing quest in Seed of Annihilation is one of the main parts of the current game stage, together with quests in Mithril Mine.
And finally got (extremely) lucky and got https://l2wiki.com/Skull_Carnium_Bow from https://l2wiki.com/Freya . So I advice to not skip and do both Freya and Zaken while you can.

PS still absolutely ecstatic about no bots in all the farming zones.




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Hello, andrius3022! I would like to ask for your nick name and talk a little in game with you. I like your idea of doing this I would like to help you with anything I can! : ) Please give me your nick here or in private.

 

Day 9



88-89
Feeling a bit of monotonical. Kartia, Seed of Annihilation, Mithril Mine quests. And obviously, Fairy Settlement daily quests, to level up my Adventure Guild and Mother Tree Guardian factions.
To change a bit, went for https://l2wiki.com/Teredor and got lucky enough to receive https://l2wiki.com/Scroll:_Enchant_Weapon_(R-grade)



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@qweto I am Verb/AForce and during streaming time aNewChar.

 

Day 10



89-90
The day started as always, with kartia, followed with https://l2wiki.com/Freya run, that was not really lucky. And obviously, https://l2wiki.com/Seed_of_Annihilation 3 dailies is a must! Ended up to do dailies in https://l2wiki.com/Fairy_Settlement to get faction points and party kartia to get lv 90.
Since I got lv90, tomorrow will be a lot of work to do in Magmeld


Day 11



90

Magmeld questing was the main goal to farm decent amount of adena. It all starts with https://l2wiki.com/Unsettling_Shadow_and_Rumors and do all the quests around, talk with NPC all around the city. It will provide an amazing amount of Adena/Enchant scrolls and attribute stones/crystals.
Example of worth to mention 1-time quest: https://l2wiki.com/For_the_Forgotten_Heroes.
Besides Magmeld had time to make Seed of Annihilation dailies, Mithril Mines run and sell some drops.
Day went perfect, look at this earning from less than 3 hours of play:

Talked with some people that played Lineage back in C1-C3. They had also issues with how hard is to gear up in this game and such options as full item rewards from quests or Unidentified items were removed.
And sadly noticed increasing bot activity over the map once again.


Main suggestion. at lv 88 do https://l2wiki.com/Shadow_of_Terror:_Blackish_Red_Fog and once 90 go back to Magmeld and do all possible quests there!!


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Day 12



90-91 (+some on subclass)
As usual dailies: SoA, Mithril Mine, Fairy Settlements, Kartia 90 and finally managed to make Kartia 90 (Party) duo! Had a chance to make https://l2wiki.com/Spezion_(normal) and make https://l2wiki.com/Undecaying_Memory_of_the_Past
Made https://l2wiki.com/Red_Thread_of_Fate and took my 1st subclass - Spellhowler . Killing some low lever raid bosses is a fast way to level. In my case, I almost managed to kill solo: https://l2wiki.com/Earth_Protector_Panathen & https://l2wiki.com/Beacon_of_Blue_Sky
And kept on making those juicy adenas!

Had some discussion that players after 95 loses all possibilities to farm solo unless they have box ISS, that is impossible without PA. Everyone understands that this game is not solo, but most of CPs/Clans are interested in activities 100+ and solo players above 95 are left behind without any way to grow, besides few instances.
To solve that ability to log 2 accounts without PA was suggested. Also, people mentioned increasing level until when you get free buffs from NPC. 10kk is by far too much for 1 hour of farming, wherein best case you can farm 2-3kk from mobs while paying 11+kk for buffs+consuables



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Day 13



91-92 (+ some on subclass)
Once again - Kartia labyrinth, Fairy Settlements, Seed of Annihilation. Also tried my luck at https://l2wiki.com/Kimerian and https://l2wiki.com/Kimerian#Extreme .
Spent some time killing https://l2wiki.com/Barion and https://l2wiki.com/Verfa solo. But was worth, got ~5 levels from 2 raids.
Of course, finished in quest circle in https://l2wiki.com/Mithril_Mine

Talked and once again heard one of the main reasons why people prefer NCWest servers (Naia/Chronos) over Core+Ramona is an ability to have at least 1 box without paying any premium, etc.



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Nice initiative but is pointless and i think u only waste your time. L2 is dead and probably in 1-2 years Core will be what Ramona was 2 months ago.
Slowly but surely players number is going down.
A game based on wallets cannot survive long time.
On west player base is going also down pretty fast,they will merge soon another 2 servers.

 

Imho it's a good initiative but you came too late.
Salvation is all about l2store, or pay to win, with a korean random chance of winning something.
Unless you put 10k € on the table, aka l2store to gain adena, after 101 you will hit a wall for decades.
About ncwest yes you can open 3 clients for free but you have to pay x5 each item for that benefit. If you are on freya or naia x15. Compared to ru x 15 or (freya naia) x45.
GL.

 

Day 14



92 (+some levels on subclass)
A day was quite familiar with others - Kartia, SOA, Mithril Mines, Fairy Settlements.
Besides that, I made a small test of farming in https://l2wiki.com/Garden_of_Genesis . Was doing https://l2wiki.com/Creation_of_Twisted_Spiral, that took me around 30 min. It is well known that GOG (Garden of Genesis) is still having decent drops/spoils. I managed to gather over 12 million adena. It is maybe not much, but it is way more than you could farm anywhere else at this level. Besides that having a spoiler with you could easily add another 30-70% extra. https://l2wiki.com/Garden_Chief_Priest is one of the strongest mobs around, but it drops up to 33k adena and dropping/spoiling large quantities of https://l2wiki.com/Weapon_Fragment and
https://l2wiki.com/Weapon_Fragment_(Mid-grade) that has quite high demand between players, making Dragon weapons.
In addition to GOG - https://l2wiki.com/Pavel_Ruins and https://l2wiki.com/Archaic_Laboratory are good candidates to mention with a good amount adena, material drop/spoil rate ( such as: https://l2wiki.com/Horrifying_Jackhammer_Golem_)

Lineage 2 community need more of that! And ofc with adequate bot management. Also over and over again Unidentified items topic was coming back as a measure, making players being able to start this game easier.



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PS I had some questions and requirements for specific quests/instances that I plan to explain during my streams and even make separate videos/guides. If you have something that interests you, pm me in forum/twitch or comment video on youtube to let me know.

PSS Maybe it is dead, impossible to play. Or maybe it is not... I am trying to find out myself if I can have some fun in this game still as a new player. And if will attract few new/returning players... I am all for it

 

DAY 15



92-93 (+ quite some on subclass)
Besides Daily monotonical stuff (Mithril Mines, Seed of Annihilation, Fairy Settlements, Kartia) I finally got 93 and could unlock https://l2wiki.com/Isle_of_Souls quests. It all starts with https://l2wiki.com/Mysterious_Journey followed by https://l2wiki.com/Soulless_One and kill https://l2wiki.com/Spicula_Zero. It gives some adena and 2x https://l2wiki.com/Scroll:_Enchant_Weapon_(R-Grade) + 5x https://l2wiki.com/Scroll:_Enchant_Armor_(R-grade).

Over and over again was a concern about disability to do anything after 95, due to lack of free buffs from NPC.


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can you, please, elaborate this?

And another question, what payment for buffs after Lv.95 would be acceptable?

 

Just after Goddess of Destruction release items were not standard and blessed only. Normal monsters and a large number of quests were dropping/giving Unidentified items. These items are tradable, but you can not enchant, augment, add an attribute or SA etc. until you open them by double-clicking. Whenever you were opening them you were getting 1 out of 3 kinds of weapons: Bound, Normal or Blessed. Blessed and normal are exactly the same ones as we have now. While Bound items have exactly same stats as normal items just they can not be traded.

Source: http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/the-library/items/

Spoiler: Item types

Unidentified (No longer available)
Most items acquired from quests and monsters are Unidentified. The item’s name is displayed, but not its quality level. It cannot be equipped or altered with enchantments. It can be traded, dropped, and sold. To use an item, a character must double-click on the Unidentified item. The Unidentified item then changes into a Bound, Standard, or Blessed item at random. The four item conditions have different conditions and restrictions.

Bound (No longer available)
The item is bound to the character who obtained it. It cannot be traded, mailed, dropped, or sold to other characters, but can be sold to NPC shops. It can be enchanted, augmented, and given special abilities and attributes. R-grade Bound items can be converted into Standard items by using Unbind Scrolls sold by special NPCs or acquired from certain raid bosses. However, a Bound item cannot be unbound if it has been augmented. All other alterations made to a Bound item (enchantment, special abilities, attributes, and armor set effects) remain with the item when it is converted to a Standard item. Bound items can also be converted into Standard items through the Blacksmith of Mammon. Bound items cannot be turned into PvP items.

Standard
The item can be traded, dropped, and sold. It can be enchanted, augmented, and given special abilities and attributes.

Blessed
The item can be traded, dropped, and sold. It can be enchanted, augmented, and given special abilities and attributes. Blessed items get the highest stat boost when enchanted.

Items 95% of the time were becoming Bound (aka worthless in a market but good for using) 4% normal and <1% blessed (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=241674). Also, Bound items were available to turn to normal/blessed using unbind scrolls https://l2wiki.com/Unbind_Scrolls or just turn back to unidentified using Seal Scrolls https://l2wiki.com/Scroll:_Seal_Weapon_(R-grade) .
The biggest benefit was that Unidentified items were dropping extremely often (3-5 item drops every hour), a lot of daily quests/1time quests (like 1st-time istina quest was giving R95 top and bottom unidentified) and the thing was.. they had value for players, while NPC was buying them for literally 0 and bound items were worth 50-150k as well. And Crystalizing Bound item was giving like 1/200 amounf of crystals in comparison with crystalising Normal/Blessed item.

It would be nice to introduce this back, maybe with lowering chance to get normal/bound items to not make people mass sell them to npc.. but that would definitely give a chance for new players to get Bound R/R95/R99 items.. be able to farm places that they simply can not atm.. and eventually maybe try use Unbind scrolls, get normal items and try either to sell or upgrade eventually them to PVP/PVE.

Anything less than 10kk adena. Since everyone complains that it costs 3-5 times more of what you could farm in the best case during that hour.
Majority of people watching my stream accents that I will hit the wall once I will get 95 (and sadly that is really soon)
Freya scrolls that are the 2nd option is not working either since their value is even higher than 10kk

 

That would make isses even less needed...

 

SnoWyz you're wrong. Everyone know iss is necessary for any raid for debuff, pom, little heal,rapsody, ditty, etc. No iss will never be useless. The lower price of Npc's buff (LVL1) will just allow ppl to farm even alone (low population bring me to avoid farm because couldn't find pt from 95 to 99 and it will not change until101 i think. Or maybe do k95 solo (at lvl 95/96 give quite good exp).
As wrote privately to Fragola, max 3-4kk for lvl1 buff, no more. And more exp event

 

Day 16



93 (+70-75 on subclass)
The main focus of the day was to become Nobless. For that level 75 subclass is necessary to unlock https://l2wiki.com/Noblesse,_Soul_Testing . Why was it so important? Because making 10 matches every olympiad day (Friday/Saturday) can provide with easy 2x https://l2wiki.com/Giant's_Energy and if you win 5-10 times in a row than 1-3 extra Giant's energies. All is necessary is to take https://l2wiki.com/Olympiad_Starter + https://l2wiki.com/Olympiad_Undefeated and do make your olympiad matches. It gives easy 27kk or more every week.

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We talked in stream with Verb and others and agreed on some parts that Buffs should be available unlimited levels...

ISS still has BR and lvl4 buffs so its ok.

The town buffs should be level 1 tbh.

 

So about buffs at lvl95 and above, i agree they should be allowed at lv95 and onward, like same lvl1 and prices shouldnt be higher than 3mil. cuz u gonna buff like 2-3 times while doing solo dailies and thats quite a lot of money considering how much you earn per day.But now 10mil is way too much.

 

There used to be a thing called elixir of blessing, that i used to use (..) coupled with a cookie and it worked just fine.
Lets not make ISS's more of a box class than they already are.

 

Hello! First of all, thumbs up for andrius3022, for his videos and stream. I'm here because of him.

I'm new here but I'm not really a new player to the game. I've played since the beginning of NA, on and off, but the last break was quite big and it was a few years ago. While everything I have is on NA, I decided for the first time to try it in Europe, as I discovered this thread.

I installed both, EU and NA version of the game. I must say, the ping difference is resizable, player's shops prices are lower, even L2 shop seems more friendly here and the prices lower. Population seems about the same, and it's not great, judging by party matching. A lot of the duo requests coming up and barely any full groups. I'm inclined to stay here.

Let's talk about the game in general. A lot has changed within the game, and at first glance, for the worst. When I came back, I jumped on the NA forum and I must say, I have yet to read a positive thing about the state of the game. It's the same here, people saying the game is dead and advising you to uninstall the game. It seems like a very positive welcome so far. Yet I started playing it again.

The first issue that comes up a lot, from reading complains, is that a new player is impossible to make adena. Drops are nonexistent and adena barely drops. I can see that. I must say, adena was dropping quite a lot in the past, inflation was bound to happen. First of all, it's not all bad. I think it was actually a good idea but badly executed. When they reduced adena drop they should have removed all adena from players and getting compensated in some other way by the amount you had. As the result we have now, it's players that hoarded billions and trillions of adena that dictate the market prices. As a new or even older casual player, it's impossible to compete with these prices unless you cash shop. Second of all, new players need adena to gear up. You can already see the issue here. If there was some sort of gear progression like in the past, adena for gearing up wouldn't be an issue, as you don't need it. If it was a new server, what good is that adena if there is no gear to buy from others, as drops have been nerfed significantly. Andrius explained earlier the unidentified system we had. It was actually good and not game breaking. Even before that we had shadow equipment which was dropping quite often, it was gear that you couldn't enchant, SA or anything but at least it was something. Even my main character in NA has full R and R95 bound gear, which was more than fine to do group instances with other players. It wasn't very easy but also not hard, as I was spamming all the instances available, getting all the gear parts, crafting or selling and so on.

Another issue that comes up and it's only specific for EU, are the buffs. I get it, in theory you should group up with others, get in a clan and so on. That's only in theory. First thing I did, as advised, get in a high level clan to level up faster. So far I can say that the chat of a level 11 clan is almost dead, barely any grouping happens in this game. If you look at party matching, a lot of duo and barely any full groups, and only for very few instances. You're forced by the game, from the very beginning, to level up a DD class. Support classes are terrible soloers. I had the pleasure to do all my 4 swampland quests this weekend and I must say, even as a DD class it took me a very long time, as bots were killing everything around me. Imagine as a support. I was thinking of making a support class, as I have played healer for a bit in the past, but what's the point? To do only group kartia up to 97 and have to deal with all the grinding solo quests up to that level? I remember when I was doing teredor, soa, istina, spezion, spicula, stronghold aoe, guillotine fortress aoe and so on. Lots of grouping was happening, it wasn't an issue to be a support class but now, up to 97 you're going to resort to kartia alone, as nobody bothers with the others. If you're in a CP, you don't have issues as a support, or not as much, but outside of it, it's going to be very hard. So to the point, why are level 1 buffs 10 millions? I don't even make that much all day from doing 95+ solo quests, which takes more than 1 hour, and nobody seems to be grouping up for these quests.

My own personal issue I discovered so far is gating content behind a paywall. I don't know what else is there behind a paywall but I wanted to try fishing and it says it's only available for premium accounts. Why is that? I've tried fishing in NA. Nothing amazing, good for passing some time while you do things around the house. Bots don't seem to bother with it in NA, they still swarm the open fields. I'd rather have bots go fishing than bother me in open areas while doing my dailies.

I get all the PA thing, it's your business model and that is fine, if you want more than the game could offer you. I myself used to pay a second account besides my main, when the game was p2p. PA is also good for supporting the game, but it shouldn't be for less than that, especially when there are players who can't probably afford it and forced to pay to do game content. If you're going this way, I think Gameforge had the right approach of 'premium' accounts. It is the publisher that host Aion in EU, which is another NCSoft game. They get a lot of hate but at least EU is the most populated Aion region from all of them out there. These 'premium' accounts are achievable by gold packs. These are items that once used last 30 days and activates some features and enables others. They are tradable between players, you can sell it through auction house, or even gift it directly from shop. They are not cheap but also not that expensive. I bought a lot more of them from players that I could ever afford it, as it's quite hard with a salary from my own country. Anyway, if you don't have gold pack active, trading and mailing between players is restricted, and even auction house. You can't initiate a trade with anyone but someone with premium can initiate a trading with and give you stuff, but not the other way around. Selling random drops to npc is also restricted, imagine you can only sell random mats you get to npc up to 15mil adena per week without premium. Auction house is also restricted, as the only thing you can buy from it is the gold pack, put it on sell from other players, and you can't sell anything. Because of all these restrictions, bots are nonexistent. Then how can a new player can manage to as f2p player, you may ask? You play solo until you gather enough to buy your first gold pack. It's a struggle at first but once you bought your first one from players, or shop one yourself, it's easy to keep going on with gold packs from other players, if you're active in the game. This way all sides win, the publisher by selling these gold packs all the time, the truly f2p player that can buy from paying players, and less bots in general.

That was quite a wall of text for my first post here but this is my feedback about the current state of the game so far.