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Nc West is finished . Comeback to European server

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Yoloplayer, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Yoloplayer

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    A look of how forums there look like . I’m done with nc West I think American servers kicking out the few players still rolling . Very disappointed but also happy that there is another chance to play the game . [​IMG]
     
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  3. SK111

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    Long story short.
    A top spender on ncwest upgraded his stage 2 dragon fists to stage 3 celebrating the whole thing on youtube.
    As the dragon chest event went live he contacted ncwest support obtaining a downgrading from stage 3 to stage 2.
    With the mats he gained this way he crafted a second dragon weapon from scratch + 1 trillion adena profit.
    The outrage of different treatments based on how much (thousand of dollars) or how few (hundreds) you spend per month went live.
    Finally NCWest gms reverted the whole thing.

    I bet Iron would be really interested in knowing how to scam Fragola ending up with 1 trillion adena profit.
     
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  4. Yoloplayer

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    Think is that this is not healthy . The photo i upload here is how they treated me . So for me is eather a coinsidence or nc West is closing and they make anything they can to close the server . Other thing is that player say stories about how gms we’re giving back multiple times equipment ( blown weapons ) that failed to be enchantet +20 +23 +24 witch are crusual to competition . With a few worlds as regular players that I log in to play for a few houres per day nc West servers are not safe . To me it looks like no difrence from a private server . I just post this here so ppl will know and be happy they play here with me . Btw I’m already lvl 73 and I didn’t see bots yet wile on the other hand nc west is full of them [​IMG]
     
  5. zauliuz

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    well, we had "feature" to restore back destroyed items when you die with pk (you know who was that)... and there just mats ;) nothing impressive.

    it's a troll... or they was serious? :D
     
  6. Yoloplayer

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    Unfortunately they was serious .
     
  7. zauliuz

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    wait.... i'm going to read their EULA.

    edit: so basically you can't touch anyone there.
     
  8. mYzor

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    For a good while i got to see the steamy pile of .... this game has become, but holy salt watter:

    It was all a lie!!!1juan.
    I wonder if all the people that had their army of bots "harassed" will demand compensation now xD.
    NCWest. Just a handicapped hand of NCSoft.

    Edit, serious mode:
    NCWest at the moment:
    Truffle, the bright mind that decided to upgrade a dragon FIST weapon, decided to quit. Probably the wisest decision that person ever made in his Lineage 2 life. (though i doubt it will happen)
    Some of the players are threatening to quit with him/her/it because? Sugardaddy gone? Maybe fellow players from his/hers/its clan feeling like they lost their powerhouse, the enlighted one that upgraded a dragon FIST, their leader?
    Then you have the crowd, some hating, some making fun of the situation, and some fearfull of the future of their servers.
    Long story short? Mistakes happened. If their players have been playing all this time, it wont be this that will make them go away. Servers will go on, so will the milking, so will the happy spenders. The end.
     
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  9. TranpeGG

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    Upon his request GMs took his stage 3 fists and gave him stage 2 fists and mats needed to click 2->3.

    Then he made a stage 2 bow and had lots of mats unused. He didn't made profit from thin air thus far since he already had collected all those mats.

    The profit came when after 3 weeks of his enemies QQing in forum, GMs decides to revert their action and the way they did it made the profit for him.

    They took his stage 2 bow and stage 2 fists and gave him back the stage 3 fists and a bow fragment. And because they didn't also took the leftover mats, he made the profit from that.

    IMO it's fair, it was a huge GM mistake, the guy invested on a new toon(archer) made it 105/104 and probably overpaid for the bow fragment which is useless until NCWest puts a dragon Claw event/promo.

    I might be wrong on the profit part since I only read forums, but that's the only way it make sense to me.

    As far as Innova compared to NCWest, here it's better but it needs a lot more work from Innova and the community. Server needs to be cheaper so more people can afford to play and actually create excitement. Also the community must constantly give good feedback and not just QQ, along with trying to keep the server balanced, cause one-sided server is no fun.
     
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  10. SK111

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    Sorry myzor and tranpe there's a misunderstanding.
    First of all he used that bow stage 2 to lvl up and entire cp to 105 in 3 weeks.
    Correct me if I am wrong but this can't happen even in your own private server.
    Secondly pm me when Iron will dare to ask something like that to Fragola. I don't want to miss the scene.
    Idk the purpose of a company like innova or ncwest is making money from the players entertaining them and not to put money in the players' bank account.
    Eventually you don't know how much Truffle was spending per day nor how much in $ he paid those dragon fists stage 2 to Miso.
    I have to dig in but i've got some ss of worldchat where's Truffle wrote something like this "all the 98-105 raidbosses are mine".
    If you want you may put it this way someone finally stated that chronos isn't Truffle's server.

    To trampe
    If only Fragola could realize that applying ru price in here would mean gaining all ncwest customers in one go ...
     
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  11. TranpeGG

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    Doesn't matter what the guy did or said in the past. It's all GMs fault, they Fed up by granting his request and then Fed up even more with the way they reversed it and how long it took. His request wasn't unreasonable though, NCWest had already set a precedent by granting similar requests to other players showing favoritism, this one just happened to have the biggest impact on the server and could not be hidden like other requests could.

    Innova and NCWest have the same boss, they obviously don't want top donors to come here from NA because they pay way more there for the same l2store. My hope is that they realize that by descreasing prices they will attract many from privates and the non-NA that aren't willing to spend on NCWest.

    Last sayha promo looks promising, only 50% more expensive than RU, compared to circlet promo which was x2+++ more. A good step in the right direction imo, definitely more of those are required.
     
  12. mYzor

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    Aaaaaand you can stop there.
    I dont care about what he/she/it does with his/hers/its life. Honestly, i dont. (does that make me a bad person?)
    Regardless of what i think about how much of a waste those fists were (and still are, imho), he decided to upgrade those fists.
    Mistake #1: He made a decision to upgrade. This was no accident.
    Mistake #2: He then decided to petition his way out of the consequences of his actions.
    Mistake #3: Support decided to ignore the rules to help him out.
    Correct action: NCWest undid the ******** the support had done.

    People are diverting the focus of this issue into things that dont matter. (ah he made an archer, oh he proffited by, and so on)
    People should be happy that for at least once, NCWest had the cojones to fix a monumental screwup that should have never happened. (even though it seems he did get extra mats or something)

    Although i absolutely believe NCWest only fixed this because of the backlash. But hey..

    As for how reasonable his request was. How many people got screwed in this game by misclicking and even losing stuff due to lag and never got anything back?
    What is reasonable to one person may not be reasonable to 100 others.
     
  13. Cordana

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    Please correct me becouse maybe i'm wrong

    Our current prices is much lower than ncwest right ? something around 50% ? + possibility to gain some items like jewels boxes/circlets from in game content
     
  14. SK111

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    To myzor
    It never happened core or ramona were claimed by a top donator as their own server
    Eventually you don't have a stage 3 fists in here. If you want i can give some link
    He almost single handed one entire clan of ppl with +12 dark and dragon weapon as well for one entire year.
    Iron is just a total random newbie compared to truffle because i don't think iron is so mad to spend hundreds of thousands of € on a videogame.

    To Trampe
    Innova is supposed to be a different company compared to ncwest. Ncwest is sinking. From 9.000 users to 1800 in less than 12 months.

    To Cordana.
    No the actual ratio is innova 1 ncwest 5 to 6 or for every € you spend in here you have to spend 5 to 6 € on ncwest
    The ratio used to be innova 1 ncwest 10 to 15 so prices in here went slightly up.
    + everything on ncwest is character (not account) bounded and that's why so many asked to move a bounded item from one toon to another on the same account.

    To myzor again you are right on one point.
    1 trillion adena sold on the black market means a lot of $ gained with a single mail and that can't be hided so simply.

    Edit: when you compare innova to ncwest you are doing 2 main mistakes and all of you can check them by yourself.
    1st on there are happening things that in here can't be even imagined.
    eg. you are totally new but rich and do you want to bash some head?
    no problem log in and buy a 105 toon
    go chronos giran +12 dark armor and dragon weapon
    next shop full brooch br and so on
    all you need to do is to click the l2store button and buy the fist thing you come across than drop the items in the first shop you come across
    after a week you re-selle everything on the black market for real $ to the next rich guy
    2nd is there a new event on ncwest
    all come in here to read Fragola's instructions. I feel stupid to write this because even I did it in the past since Fragola seems to be working for ncwest without getting any wage.
    You don't understand some game mechanic? Where the problem? Go to watch one of Fragola's video.
    It's embarassing to say the less.
     
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  15. mYzor

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    @SK111 I know i could be coming across as a ahole sitting in a throne but im really not. (not sitting in a throne that is)
    Regardless of the person in question, there were mistakes made from both sides.
    That dude knows he made a mistake and instead of dealing with the consequences, he tried to get away with it. And he almost made it.
    NCWest made a mistake (the support) and then corrected it.
    What he does, and what kind of person he is, is irrelevant. There are rules to obey.

    The fact that people bring the fact that the same stuff happened (favoritism/partiality) with people from other clans without realizing how bad it makes them look its sad.
    Its like.. C'mon.. You're playing a bad game (imho), by a publisher (NCWest) that is greedy and has an incompetent support staff and you give them money?
    You know what the "What-Man" was trying to do to Marsellus Wallace in Pulp Fiction? Make him look like an NCWest L2 player.
    Over and out.
     
  16. iLethal

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    perfect. when our dragon event comes me hax and avatar will ask fragola to revert iron's caster and make 3 bows

    and mista can recruit more lengends from Naia to bring back server balance

    "KEEPING A GAME ALIVE SHOULD NEVER EVER BE A CONCERN OF THE PLAYERS. " I like whoever said this over there.

    one thing I don't understand is, if they didn't take back the leftover mats, it's more than enough to make that bow frag into lvl 2 again, so he'll still have lvl 2 fist and lvl 2 bow? but I guess he prolly sold them over that 3 weeks.
     
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  17. TranpeGG

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    He can't possibly have stage 2 fists and stage 2 bow. They gave him back stage 3 fists and bow fragment. The leftover mats are 3870 lvl 5 and 10 dragon claws plus the rest of gemr/ge/elcyum, for stage 2 craft you need 5410 lvl 5 and 110 claws.
     
  18. Hax

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    basically only missing claws to make lvl2
     
  19. TranpeGG

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    And the lvl 5 mats for stage 1 click, problem is claws don't exist in NA, almost everything has been used and no claw event/promo yet. So yeah, either they farm 100 claws or wait for l2store promo, basically.
     
  20. SK111

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    You are all wrong. You don't understand one simple thing.
    In here, thanks to Fragola and DIL, the border between what's legit and what's not it's crystal clear.
    On ncwest this border never existed.
    Everyone may say what he wants but the truth is a total different one and everyone may check it by himself logging in on chronos.
    There are so many claws on the market to do another 2 stage 3 guns. The only thing you have to do is to pay real $.
    The whole thing was made only to gain some real 10.000 x ? $ on a bank account because in july there will be the next ancient cloack event and in august/september the dragon shirt one. That's why.
    The only thing you can't buy on ncwest, atm, it's some one else parents. Atm.

    Edit. I just want to ask to Hax in which server is it possible to farm 120 dragon claws only by yourself?
    You are missing 3/4 of the truth. Those 120 claws were given and asked back but never returned to their legit owner.


    Since yesterday the topic was closed before I've had the opportunity to reply
    I've talked with Iron a couple of times
    He's geared like the worst chronos meatshield toon only because he's mentally sane.
     
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