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[09.10.2018] F.A.Q.: new server

Discussion in '2018' started by Yumi, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Spooks

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    Your answer showed that u are really focused on one simple thing "Money" business model, pay get items and sell with RMT after 1-2 months.
    Ofcourse Innova provides service in which they can't do nothing that devs don't see profit... If u played before GoD and Lineage 2 was p2p model it had way better online, now one u pay for boosts in game, u pay to gear up and that's a problem of modern L2 nothing, changed much in these game for last years. I Quitted long ago game after first 2 months of Ramona, now tried clasic on ncwest but honestly waiting 8hours in queue is suicide. XD
    There is plenty of better titles to get in which u can do smthing without $$$$. Talk like world is revolving around money has sense, but focusing proift over customers give u in the end no profit after time.
     
  2. IqqCrusher

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    I really hope i have time to play when people get bored of P2W and servers go back to subscription model. The game being P2W is not Innova's fault, is ours. ='(
     
  3. Spooks

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    This day won't come, because store gives them way bigger money than p2p system, and Korean's prefer to pay for easier game than pay subscription, and I know this from own experience, by playing any mobile game with koreans 1 week they leave other ppl even who pay in back xD
     
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  4. D4rkFaCez

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    When u launch a new server whit no l2store and pay to play like classic, just tell me i come whit my pack ! i really like to play a equal condition server in godess lineage 2! It was my dream and a dream of some others! (no shirts of 300 eu / no tarots whit game influence itens / no acessorys / no pve pvp capes / no jewells broch...)
     
  5. Spooks

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    I agree with this idea but capes are from castles and brooch u can get from mammon so u can obtain this in game, but Store should focus on cosmetic part of game not on items that make game p2w if u spend $$$$ and have luck, other thing would be to make normal drop rates or like in some topic was moved unidentified items back to game with bound items.

    If u hope that new players will come to this server, just have hope but it will end same as on Ramona, top clans will come to make easy money on RMT and screw up server when the times comes it will end same way as any earlier of those (Merge). U just give break for biggest donators of Core from almost half-dead server.
     
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  6. Hax

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    you cannot make lvl6 brooches from mammon only, gl
     
  7. Copeland

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    Innova doesn't have Legendary cloaks like Chronos has.
     
  8. Bonasky

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    +8 set, pve weapon, talismans... from beggining of core it was to years to get +6+ weapon... xD and 1 year to get 99 :f... now $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and better set in 2 weeks :D
     
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  9. Hakst

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    Yeah, I see only one flaw in your theory. I am a poor student in a country with an avarage salaray of 400 euro. So please tell me more, how I am interested in RMT. :)

    Edit: And I can come up with several other popular MMORPG games that are heavy p2w too.
     
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  10. Copeland

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    Yeah you gotta love some people: "I'm sorry you can't afford it, but I can."

    Same guy: "This server is dead, no people."
     
  11. Cordana

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    Do you know that this guy recived during stream some crazy donation and bought tarots for evrything ?? and it was not like 1000 or 2000 euro but something around 8000-10000 euro during one stream, i saw some other streams even after month and they killing 101 raids in paulinas expect one titan with pve weapon +4
     
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  12. spontaniczna

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    Inova 1st u have to think about what u want?
    Server like core with 500 ppl online( 50-100) donators
    Small adena form PA ,big from l2 store?

    Server with 2-3k online( big adena from PA, small from L2 store)
    If u choose 1st way will be fail like on Ramona.Nvm how slow u will add L2 store items.
    People showed what they think aboutl2 store on Ramona.

    WHat u have to do:
    1.NO ITEMS FROM L2 STORE- all items what players will have, have to get to from normal way.
    Drop.craft, drop events, etc.

    2. 1st month akces to make fast 85 lvl for all ppl not only wih PA
    ( u need 2 ppl withou PA for keep serve alive).

    3.Never L2 store events.
    4.In l2 store only:
    Rune exp. drop
    Cosmetic
    Change name etc
    Vit items etc
    Shirt and enchat scrol shirt( normal)
    5.ADD Sayha box to Mammon -the same price as ultima box.
    6. Block server auctions( giran) or change items for now.
    sry for my english

    BTW name server NEFRO ( Orfen from behind)
     
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  13. GaloN

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    Hype will be good back to L2 :)
    If i good see the biggest problem is tarots.
    Well we can only hope that innova will let us play on a fair server for a long time.
    On the other hand, I understand that the server must earn on itself. But this can be done in a thousand other ways.

    Anyway happy to hear news. And see you ingame guys.
     
  14. Tazman

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    It doesnt metter how much money you need to spent, some ppl will do it. Ramona was capped on jewels and this already unbalanced game so hard, now imagine cap rised 5x times :D This russian is harmless, as i see his yt channel - he had no party nor hands so no harm done but if just mid player in mid party lay his hands on this money items its gg for everyone playing against him/them.
     
  15. Oscar

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    @Yumi @Artchem
    what are current advertising efforts for new EU server? (if any :D)
    basing on the fact we had 4 new off servers (NA/RU) in the past weeks, this server will suffer a lot. There are lot of regional l2 forums or general mmo-themed sites which could be engaged.
     
  16. Jintxa

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    I would also like a server without l2store. But we must recognize that the game is designed to make the L2store necessary. Example: How do you intend to create a 99 weapon with the second SA needing 5000+ R gemstons and in the game you drop around 4-5 a month? and the necessary GE? that can still be taken out of the ch but the price would be through the roof. And let's not talk about the EoD only 2 daily for each pj and you can not farm ... This game is badly done XD
     
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    The main Problem is, they introduce new Items ( at a price of few thousand € per Item) faster then people can get them even tho they spend already to much for "a Game" , so u will never be done equipping ur char/cp/clan or w/e
     
  18. kobra

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    Simple question:
    Tell us what will be in L2 store??
    I left Core cause of L2 store , and also left Ramona, 2 days after Tarrots, think many ppl do the same....
    Make pay 2 play and u will see how many $ u will get from IT !
    No l2 store = more ppl, more fun, more popular server- more $ ..... simple... ( OK, L2 store with cosmetics and some XP items if u want )
     
  19. iFilda

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    The game is balanced around l2store. Take it away and half of end game content will be locked for years. Ask some core top clans how many dragon weapons did they collect before adding fragments into l2store. Gl farming jewels, talismans etc. without eod packs. It's a ship that has sailed years ago. People need to realize.
     
  20. Tazman

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    And whats wrong with dragon weapons/jewels 6 locked for years? thats how game mechanic works and should work. Dragon weapon should be reward for years of hard work not how many 0 you can transfer from your visa and same goes for jewels. More ever things you mentioned are only needed to counter enemies who has them, you dont need them to unlock any pve content.