Looking for pk "mechanism"guide

I already imagine in all pvps 1 ptbox pk waiting for the long-awaited drop of the dragon weapon nah its a joke....or not?

 

Intended is when u have no target, u will receive target of person who attacks U. This is 100% intended from Prelude by developers.

This game is like 15y old and have a lot of features. For sure u cannot say, those game mechanics are not intended. They are, they are intended for 15 years.

 

it's pretty hard to catch archer or feoh if they use simple aoe skills. especially when they on max atk/cast speed. unless you have some kind of "skills" or 6th sense when they start cast it, but for those you can be banned..

@yLogy if targeting set for mobs that trick not working anymore. but peoples still using macros to /target mob. or /target iss. for example you can be safe if you /target captive phantom macro. or "/target e p" (shorter version of macro, last first word and 1st second word letter. example how it works can be "/target h of m" to target blackmitH OF Mammon) but like this you attack only captive phanom mobs. but that "safe" is only if nobody manages you drag to the fort. or for example forget char in gainak war..

 

How you quote only 1 part of the post? I said the Innova staff said it.
There is a feature on the kr servers, from like 2 updates ago. Allowing you to lock you items so they can't be dropped, enchanted or anything, w/o you buy something from the l2store (free, but you need some ID or something). But it's not needed here

 

There's no way it was intended as a trap. It just feels that way, but can't be true.


It's still a bug. Saying it's a feature is like saying sometimes humans passing the red light by mistake (I don't take into account the instances when people do it delibaretly) is not violating the rules.

 

Rio, do u remember when your opponents were using phoenix arrow at start of olympiad match and u was sliding away from them?

Was it bug abusing or like passing red light?

For 15 years L2 has skill casting time. Saying its bug abusing isnt correct.

I would call it abusing of game features.
So in your terminology its more like passing orange lights. ( U shouldn't do it, but it aint illegal.)

 

Or ppl just have to stay in front of pc or let someone in front of pc when you want macro party that's all. Simple, let them loose time, don't give them free items by pk and they will stop if they never drop something.

 

There were plenty of "game features" deemed illegal however this one seems to be fine in the eyes of Innova. Why? I guess the whole game revolving about harassment and abuse of so called "game feature" is fine. Seconds it is not only about game macros they are just the easiest targets however if you work the system well and are persistent you can literally make any person even actively farming get a lot of pk over short period of time and not everyone has thousands of personal fame to get pk scrolls every times someone abuse the system. But I guess it works in favor of Innova if people keep buying pk scrolls from l2store.

 

It's not about in whose favour is it, it's about that the game is developed by koreans and the communication is way too slow + their test environment doesn't show the same errors as we have.

 

If the loop macro was designed (in my opinion) for players to save time in making factions or something similar then it does not make sense that looping macros exist.

 

you save time with the macros, but noone said you can sleep meanwhile it for example.
if you go to the bathroom or if you go afk for 5min is ok, but like others said (in the few min probably not got "punished")... if you afk, you can loose your gear.
or farm without gear, afk macro, problem solved.

btw, you remind me to dontcry, he was donating like no tomorrow but he qq when there was some thing in the game what he couldnt buy (that time was exalted quest with beleth).

 

Sorry, but let me fix that a bit:

Macros were improved to help people with their boxed characters (playing a main DD and having you box assist you instead of just following or standing in a corner), not to let people fully automate gameplay while afk.
The reason NCWest, INNOVA and NCSoft will not outright tell players to stop using it as the ingame version of (insert one of many) bot program, its because the macro system is now almost like a cancer.
Its bad because it exists, and it would be bad to remove it since it would hurt their pockets directly (losing the money from PA and subscription for those extra boxes) and because it would outright show very clearly how empty this dead game has become.

 

In my opinion looping macros was designed to help players with automate some relatively boring actions which are repeating. Since we see even new updates on macro system and u can even write and macro is still working, im almost 99% sure, developers didnt made macros for players who wanna XP during night, but wanted to help players who wanna chit chat during xping or who consider pressing F1-F2 for 3 hours contineusly as boring.

@Notic
Yes, i do agree. Innova kinda missed consistency in their decisions. They couldnt even explain their decision clearly to all players and they were inconsistently answering tickets with different answer to similar problems.

Thats why, there is a lot of mysteries and unclear decisions.

But this on with casting time of skills shouldnt be unclear. For 15 years its like it is. Some total basics like running behind obstacles working on same game mechanic as making people red.

 

Other problem of macros is for what ppl using it .
Keyboard macro on main dd ( cos with l2 macro and afk you wont be able to kill proper if you dont have weapon +20 or dragon lvl 2+) + game macro on boxes , ppl know is hard to prove you are using keyboard macro and afk , but you can easy see it , if he atack fast is keyboard if not is l2 .
After this , new players using macro for gear up? I dobut , where are that new ppl, anyone saw any new player who farm? Only new donors i see.
Where going all that adenas from macros? We all know also.
Why ppl is mad? Cos this is not a game now , for ppl is like a job and they making money , thats the real cancer

 

Just go pavel and archaic and kill low levels macros. It's full of EN boxes farming there

 

Yes, of course that too, although as I said before I am with you the macros have done more harm than good because even with that main idea of using them with your box, l2 is a game where you have to do is find a player who plays an iss to go together. The power to use box and the player can sun many things with an iss box what he has done is to stop having people who play suport as they replace them with a box.

That's like playing the playstation with a knob that squeezes buttons for you. So what do you play for? Just enter discord and chat with your classmates. Come on, it's my opinion.

 

What are you guys talking about? Macros are meant to be for boxes? I don't think the devs agree with that, lol. On Prelude of War we are getting full IG bot using auto consumable items, proper targeting, and toggle self-buffs.
ISS will have one harmony lvl 1 on 101 lvl and lvl2 on 103 lvl which the combination of all lvl 1 and lvl 2 harmonies, can be cast once for the whole party without targets like melodies and sonatas, the same will be for the new combined ditty.

 

We have kinda the same mentality, but there is also perspective.
The Macro system didnt show up from thin air. Its a result of the game evolving. Its the same as when i joined this game and getting into pvps (and losing most of'em) with people boxing Prophets and Dancers (and somethings singers aswell).
Most of what is bad about this game now, was in the game in the past and it was bad then. People (me included) just had nostalgia tinted glasses back then.
Just think about the gear gap. It is bad now, but many years back (thing about c4 for example) people had to fight against organized/good (with or without programs) archer parties with epics and draconic bows with focus using A grade gear and sometimes the weirdest of set-ups.
Was it easy? No. Did people get carpeted? Yes. People had excuses not to fight? Yes. Did they fight all the same? Some people did.
Today, the NCStore has put such a mental scar on people, where its like: "hey, lets find some trouble. hmm.. that guy is glowing all kinds of clown colors, F that, hes a donor, lets do tauti!"

@TranpeGG The reason for the macro system is money.
Over there, players being like bots gives NCSoft money, as they have to pay for the time they spend outside the towns farming.

 

Come on, you really think we don't know how you are doing it? This has nothing to do with targetting, it is AoE attack for a player which has in target monster AND activates the option to target ONLY monster. The fact red or purple player can force PvP or PK penalty on PvE chars is a clear exploit, no matter how you call it. You are lucky you are well connected and nobody will punish you, but that still doesn't mean we can't call it as it is, an exploit, basically, a scam, which, btw, works whether you are in a macro or not, so all that blah-blah about you punishing "bots" is just propaganda, has nothing to do with the reality. If you really want to do that, go SoS and scam a dragon weapon, not TW from newbies, show your might and just cause.

GMs won't like that, huh...

 

when you have to "pay for your laziness " then law and game knowledge experts show their wisdom.. that's priceless.
if you want play - play with hands. otherwise whats the big deal if you don't play with your char.. one week afk and you get your gear back.. cuz you earn billions on afk mode. billions!!!