I don't mind p2w items, enchants, buff scrolls and literally any item in L store. I don't mind spending cash on items like talisman of Aden , it is kind of fun to reward yourself with little gamble what I do have a problem with is - you have to literally pay for killing mobs, not only most of your adena goes to spirit ore (buffs) hp potions and soul/spirit shots but this Sayhas Grace you 100% must have all the time! When it ends you get no adena drop and rly low exp, so not only you are almost not exping at all but all these consumables you still have to buy - it is impossible to make any money for any upgrades, how can you call it mmorpg? Only way to upgrade is using your visa! And im not talking about hardcore players who has time to spent 10 hours and play the game, first of all if you have that time - why play afk game? Most of players here like to afk while at work, at school or doing something else. Just saying, this sayha thing is so bad that most of new players who will understand how it works - will just quit, you have to do something about it!