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There i go again with a class question.

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by TeteCAT, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. TeteCAT

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    I was pked today with a dagger or whatever is,that thing attacks are so quick,i am in the floor in 3 seconds or less,leaving me without any reaction.

    So i am leveling now a dagger class dark elf,i hear that daggers are good in pvp and the pker was a dagger so it must be true,and best daggers for do damage are dark elf ones.

    The main question: is a good idea to use a chaos essence onto it to adventurer??? Because they have a skill that increase vital spot attack rate,critical damage,critical rate from the front and back by 60% and from the flanks by 30% while ghost hunter they have a penalty to the front with -30% critical rate/damage.

    Also adventurers,as i am seeing in l2 wiki,they have the most survivality of all daggers,paired with high STR and racial skills of dark elfs,i can be EPIC.

    Maybe is not the same thing as lineage 2 classic,but there was a dagger in back old days of c5 named dvp who can kill ENTIRE PARTYES with the treasure hunter,till he gets into prison for kill another lineage 2 player in real life (or that is what i heard). I want to do the same work (the dagger work in the game,not the kill another player in real life,you beasts)

    I am so surprised of the damage of the daggers in pvp,that pker had paulina (i think) R85 grade and kill me in less than 3 seconds (but i was playing a mage)

    So please any advice if it is a good idea to change with chaos essence to adventurer or stick with ghost hunter should be appreciated.

    Also i want to know if there are any class that can counter a dagger?? Because the half kills skills can kill anyone in seconds. Maybe tanks??
     
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  2. zauliuz

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    Get items, what class you play doesn't matter. and half kill is drain only cp.
     
  3. TeteCAT

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    I think youre wrong,i can play my wynn but a dagger killed me in less than 3 seconds,i am lvl 96 with the wynn. What class i play matters,i do not want to be a ****ter in pvp,at least when things like this of today (the pker) happens.

    If i was another class (fighter and not mage) maybe i can counter this dagger at the time he attacks. This can happen with other classes pkers,so i want to do some REAL damage for when i counter the pker,he thinks 2 times to attack me next time.
     
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  4. zauliuz

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    once again, ITEMS > class/skill/level. you can "counter" dagger only with dots, and be sure you land mark of trick. otherwise you are doomed.
     
  5. VaBybi

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    wynn is decent , he shines in low item requirement for farming and cheap shots for pets. He good at pve/pvp but thats all its average class.
    As @zauliuz said , items is everything , unless you talking about equal gear on all classes than ones shines more than others. I would assume that first place would be for yull/mage and than maybe dagger and all other classes.
    If you want to be "EPIC" , pretty mutch forget about it , like for real , just forget it unless you are rdy to spend 50k euro and still you would fight agains other wales.

    Having dragon wep / hero aura / blue shining armor would scary away a lot of people from pking you.

    p.s its only my opinion , iam only poor ISS main.
    p.s if you want be special killing machine , try saya , enemy not even be able to see you while you be killing them. Sadly but its good class for pvp , but on pve is ****iest.
    p.s sorry for "spying" but i saw your post on l2 classic forum and you said you cant even buy a premium account , so in other words you not a spender , then just save your time and play other game.
     
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  6. TeteCAT

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    I know,for PVE,Wynns are the best,but in PVP...****. About Sahyas Seer,i hear they are good in PVP but in PVE...again ****. I want an equalyzed class in both PVE and PVP. I tested dagger in PVE and they are good with their attack speed and crits,in PVP,the pker gives me the answer.
    The main problem is that dagger catch me surprised and stun me,later he used half kill skills,lower my CP and the rest is 3 second duration.

    Also now i spend items on the dagger i have,i can not lost them. Like SP scrolls for have patk skillbook,angel ring that gives you STR and P accuracy,and a decent underwear.
     
  7. VaBybi

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    you see , you think that was "PVP" right there , its sadly it wasnt ,it was 2 fly head to head bump and 1 died. At a bit higher levels the pvp is different story that you imagine. you can get like 3 "celes" just from items and most classes have skills that make you immortal or untargetable for some time, even summoner gets it, so that 3sec deads doesnt exist anymore , unless you get 1 shoted from overgeared wale.

    i dont say that dagger is bad or something , its great class for solo pve and for pvp. Just dont imagine 1x5 fights xD
     
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    Well then i guess i continue playing my Wynn till i get higher levels. Next time if i see a dagger i will be in "alert" mode.
     
  9. zauliuz

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    well, few facts about wynn
    1 - it's not pvp char
    2 - you can fight against lower geared or lower level players with similar gear or afk macrobobs.
    3 - cheap pet shots.
    that's it. that's all good things about wynn. and with update where 2-3 prof skills was removed it **** even on pve without SoS (83lvl SK buff)
     
  10. TeteCAT

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    People say that in higher levels the Wynns are different,and also you too on another post,you say "max gear and 110 lvl" those things changes.

    Seems you hate Wynns bro. Or decide the given tips about a new player like me.
     
  11. VaBybi

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    if average is good for you then go for wynn. decent on pvp/pve
     
  12. zauliuz

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    idk how to explain. it's not bad class, but also not "the best". And to be at least competitive in low level you need spend a lot €€€ in l2store. and with current updates and your paulina gear (unless you have something better than that) you will stuck and 99-100 level. and doesn't matter which class you play, without proper gear you can't kill your level mobs after lv100+
    and tip for wynn - 1st must get thing is PvE retri. more OE is better. and taurus aghation (self rapso), and rest is by your choice.
     
  13. Sternen

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    yes better found a way to make Adena and buy Gear and start leveling ^_^ Lv 110 with Paulina nothing bring you a 1hit wonder every time for most people
     
  14. TeteCAT

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    Well,i am leveling this Wynn with the update of 11 of december of this year in mind. Free buffs forever after lvl 99 and free perma r99 set. Unless this update is an invention of players,but i read that update "rumors" in reddit forum.

    With that i guess i can go at more than 99 lvl content. About PVP,i guess i must be more "in warning"
     
  15. zauliuz

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    well, you can start work for pve retri. brooches, at least ruby and opal. try OE shirt. also don't forget exp dual class. and idk how that "free r99 set" will be obtained. via quest after some level. or like now after 1st prof you get paulina set.
     
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    Just questioned that on reddit,they assured me that the update of 11 of december gives you free r99 perma set. Idk how can be obtained neither.
     
  17. zauliuz

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    well, from other sources it's part of exalted quest reward. so you need 100+ to get it
     
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    Btw,i am trying another classes,i will find one that is good at both PVP and PVE (and does not catch offguard to a dagger)
     
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  19. VaBybi

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    you can take for any class a passive skill that gives you cele when you go lower than 10% hp or something like that.
     
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    Yes i know,i have it on my healer,who is an old character. However i do not remember how to get it those skills now. Can you explain me how to obtain them???

    Edit: Ok found the NPC who gives them. I get the passive skill who become you invincible under 30% of health and the ultimate evasion for 15 sec active skill.
     
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