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Discussion in 'Players asking players' started by Nmarkovic, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. Nmarkovic

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    Hi Guys. can someone help me build my paladin?
    Like whats is budget build and what is end game build.
     
  2. Loree

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    Depends on what you are aiming to achieve, solo afk pve or active playstyle, pvp?

    Tanks are a dead class in essence at the moment. There is a tank update incoming though (this server update: lineage 2 (plaync.com))

    Before we take a look at builds, a few things you might want to consider:

    Tank is one of the hardest classes to level solo in essence
    There is no reason to play a tank for pve
    There is only little reason to play tank for pvp
    • At the moment tanks are kinda useless in pvp and pve, forget about 1v1 - maybe in cp you can support but be ready to die fast
    • Any other class has more def/atk potential than a tank - e.g. even a prophet has 2-3 times your pdef
    • You will never farm decent amounts of exp/adena - even with top equip you will always depend on others help
    Don't even think about face tanking those whale titans, dks, SE's and so on - they will 2 shot you even on UD with decent equipment

    If you still want to play tank I highly suggest to find a group (can be hard on essence but not impossible)

    Equipment

    "low" budget (pve solo/group)

    Sierra/Barakiel +0 or Aden sword +10 or higher
    Blue Wolf upper/lower for solo pve, nm or majestic heavy for pve tanking
    Dark crystal heavy or nm heavy helmet
    Majestic heavy boots+gauntlets (or nm light for vampiric)
    Valakas event necklace
    TOI rings / DV earrings
    NM shield (+HP or +CON for tanking or +STR for solo pve)

    Medium

    Sierra/Barakiel +5 or zaken sword (x3 runes 13/13/7)
    Ice Set +5
    Mana helmet +5
    Evasion boots +5
    Silence Gloves +5
    Valakas Necklace / Majestic Necklace +5 or higher
    TOI Ring +7, Core +2, DV Earring +7, Orfen +2
    NM shield +5 (+HP/CON/STR depending on playstyle) or Shield of Vengeance

    High (there is basically no limit but let’s assume you don’t have 150k $ to spend)

    Sierra/Barakiel or Zaken Sword +7/8 with x3 runes 18/18/15
    Ice Set +6-7 or Protection Set with top augment
    Mana Helmet +6-7
    Evasion Boots +6-7
    Silence Gloves or Stun Gloves +6-7 or any A grade +7 with top augment
    Vengeance shield +6-7 or Protection Shield
    All epic jewels +2-3 including frintezza

    P2W items

    „Low“

    Brooch jewels 3
    Talisman Aden 5-7, eva 4, speed 4, authority 4, venir 12, maybe hellbound
    Agations all +5-6
    Dragon belt 5 or blessed +4
    Cloak of protection +5
    Hero Circlet +3-4 or +3 CON accessory for tanking
    Pendant 2

    Medium

    Brooch jewels 4-5
    Talisman Aden 7, eva 5-6, speed 5-6, authority 5-6, venir 18+, baium talisman
    Agations +6-7
    Dragon belt 6-8 or blessed +5-6
    Cloak of protection +7
    Hero Circlet +5-6
    Pendant 3-4
    Dolls lvl 1-2

    High (depending on wallet and luck)

    Brooch jewels 6++
    Hellbound 5++, eva 7++, speed 7++, authority 7++ venir 25++, baium talisman +3
    Agathions 8++
    Dragon belt 8++ or blessed 7++
    Cloak of protection 8++
    Hero Circlet 7++
    Pendant 4-5
    Dolls lvl 3

    Don’t forget there is alot of other p2w stuff like collection, stat elixiers, augmentations, etc. that give a hugh boost.
    If you build your tank for group pvp you might want to focus on
    • Damage reduction
    • Crit damage reduction
    • Crit rate reduction
    • HP
    • Pdef (least important in this list)
     
  3. Nmarkovic

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    Ty So much mate you are a saver. This helps a lot
     
  4. Lucien

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    Your analisis it's pretty accurate if we are talking about ru and eu servers but it isn't our fault if ncsoft it's the only software house in the world which releases regional patch notes.
    It isn't this way in kr, the only place where you can play essence official.
    No one dies from a dk aoe in kr anymore let alone a tank. The problem is we were left all alone for 12 months or more without a patch to counter the two metas, both dk and titans.
    Also it isn't our fault, I mean like european players, if the crappiest tank on ru has full protection set while not even the top whale on eu has it.
    The higher the lcoins price is the lower the population.
    It isn't a mistery ru are opening servers like popcorns while we got the august kr gift because, in reality, there were less than 200 active players on two servers.
    The optimum should be to skip, completely, innova or nwcest and go to play the only official essence in kr but this means to have to pay for a decent vpn.
    If it's true that 1 l8k in korea it's 29 € instead of 20 € it's also true you can convert it in 1.2 billions adena, not 400ish kk.
    So ..... the only problem it's the paid vpn.
     
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  5. Loree

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    Well he/she asked for playing tank on eu essence - so I just described my own experience playing a tank from start in pvp clans till latest update. I agree that Lcoin price is a showstopper here and one of main reasons why eu has such low population compared to ru. There have been alot of damage reducing/absorbing items added lately but only few players got their hands on it or it has not even been implented yet here. What I can see is that even after all class reworks and also the ones that are upcoming (tanks, archer, daggers, mages) Titans and DKs will still be meta by far because other classes don't even come close to their survivability and damage output. Not even talking about farming where it's all about AOE now.

    I would love to play on korean servers but from my understanding you need a mobile phone number registered in Korea, which is kinda hard to get from here.
     
  6. Lucien

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    The major problem for the tanks it's the damage reduction, not the damage output. In KR the daggers can kill both dk and titans but not a tank.
    It's obvious we need protection sets, and the tanks the protection shield, but I don't think any player will ever get one on the european servers.
    Essence game mechanic is based in opening lootboxes, a lot of lootboxes.
    If on your servers, lets say with a population of 6000-7000 players, everyone opens at least 1 lootbox per day, you may have all the latest p2w items on day 1, and this is ru.
    If on your servers, lets say with a population of 300 players total, 2-3 of them open 100 lootboxes per day, you may have one of the top donors without his 4 stars book, and
    I seriously doubt he will ever get it.
    About the kr servers, the mobile cellphone number it's an additional, not mandatory, security feature like in here.
    https://lineage2nshop.plaync.com/lineage2/goods/list?dci=151

    Problem is a decent, and for this I mean trustworthy, vpn can be really expensive, monthly wise.
     
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  7. Lucien

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    It seems tanks aren't useless anymore.
    On the russian PST server Gosha was able to kill anybody but Merlan.
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1170724862?filter=all&sort=time
    In the beginning of the match Gosha had to flee twice because the pally, the weakest, dmg wise, amongst the new 4 tanks, was doing to him too much dmg.

    Of course that kind of gear, on both sides, fills in the description "high (beyond imagination) budget" used by Loree.

    Two more things.
    1st one. I saw many are rerolling PW but I won't be so sure it can be considered more powerful than the GH because no one, nor on eu nor on ru, has top
    end game gear, tats included.
    2nd one. I'm hearing more and more people still convinced to play in korea you need a korean phone number and therefore a korean id.
    In the beginning someone spreaded the false rumor about ru servers don't accepting na sa and eu credit cards. It was all bs, of course.
    But if you ask to someone somewhere he still continues spreading this bs.
    If I mention a VPN which may cost an eye per month it means a VPN which can bypass geolocks so if you try to connect to ncsoft kr servers using a free
    vpn guess what will happen. If you are from br you will result connecting from br and therefore you will be required a phone number.
     
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  8. Loree

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    If you take a closer look at this video, gosha was on normal hp pots on dagger, while tank used melissa all the time... and tank has had even better equip than gosha.
    So yeah, tanks are less useless but still far from good imo. As soon as all limits run off, any dagger with 4* book will eat it alive.
     
  9. Lucien

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    I won't be so sure Loree. No one on the european servers do have a protection shield and its effect, when triggered aka almost always, it's equal to 2 melissas x second.
    That's why you see the effect. With a belt +9 it's 3 melissas per second and with the real melissa it's 4 melissas per second. Not to mention the rest of the protection
    set effect.
    You have to consider that normally the pally has 50% of the damage output a HK or a SK does have and with this patch the pally it's all about his 4 stars book, to give
    a bonus to the party, otherwise it's, by far, the weakest of all the four tanks. Gosha wouldn't have survived if hit by a HK or SK for sure.
    My point however was another. Gosha killed everyone on the PTS, and I mean everyone with his GH, that's why I wrote I don't get why so many ppl are rerolling to PW
    if the GH, fully boosted and with the 4 stars book, it's a lot more powerful. I mean where all this people are getting all those fake infos it's beyond my comprehension.
    The most important point was the last one. The new daggers, expecially the GH, can kill any other charater, hands down and easily, but one.
    Tanks.

    As for the other 3 tanks we simply don't have any data to judge
    Party wise the most powerful after the patch it's the ET, but it has to be seen if its 3 stars book Eva's Care it's really worth it because it replaces Eva's Defense
    but with a longer cooldown, so imho not worth it unless there are real proofs of it beeing worth the money.
    As for the solo part Gosha himself tried a full STR build on a HK lvl 90 and coulnd't survive not even orc barracks.
    TLDR we don't have datas to judge if the best solo tank, right now, it's the SK or the HK.

    On a side note.
    That's why NCSoft Korea is using affiliates like NCWest or licencers like Innova to publish
    videogames outside of Korea
    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_170
    TLDR if you use geo locks in the videogame industry you get a multi-million dollars fine, no matter what.
    This doesn't mean you can't connect to their kr servers if willing to pay, a lot, for an enterprise VPN.
     
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  10. Loree

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    Interesting points - for the shield of protection part, any one handed class (including dagger) could use it - yeah I know, dagger with shield but it works.

    I agree that paladin has been nerfed to the ground, nerfing his existing skils and/or replacing it with higher cooldown/less duration.

    The main point I think that Korea has failed though, is that essence is a solo game but still has "semi" support roles. They try to do a balancing act between making all classes self suficient and keeping up the original "roles" that include support roles like tank. And that doesn't work.
    Imho they need to either give up the traditional roles completely by turning even tanks into 100% damage dealers/farm characters or bring back more party content to the game and re-balance classes for party play. But the idea of everyone should be able to farm solo and kill any other class doesnt perform well with having support classes (or at least semi-support)
     
  11. Lucien

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    Indeed Loree. The shield of protection is really a game breaking item, if you ask to me even more than a belt +9 or a circlet +9.
    And no one of them, nor gosha nor arlam had an antharas doll, not even lvl 1.
    I completely agree with you about the lack of content party-wise although for some instances, like the frint one, a tank is a must have.
    Go to tell this to all the dks and titans out there.
    For the tank it's an huge step in the right direction, we can't even say how much huge because we don't have weekly patches.
    Keep in mind that both on ru and on eu the daggers, as soon as the 4 stars books will begin to "drop" from lootboxes will be super iper imba OP
    because the dagger nerf was left out of the patch we got, and untill the archer patch will hit us all the daggers will be unstoppable monsters.
    So bye bye both dks and titans, for at least 6 months.

    What really bothers me is
    who the fack is giving to the european players all wrong infos. And I mean not even one is right :Roflmao:
    I mean.
    How is even possible that all the ru streamers, who by the way all speak a fluent english, went GH on the PTS, and all the eu players rerolled PW.
    LMAO.
    Who is giving fake infos to all those guys? Donald Duck?
     
  12. Lucien

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    Ok I was wrong.
    Damn how much I was wrong.
    The new Eva's Templar
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1169841177?filter=all&sort=time

    Although Gosha tried it only as dmg sponge, and therefore he didn't even try to max it to its limits, GG
    Eva's Care it's completely worth every single cent.

    The very moment Gosha realizes what Eva's Care it's about
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1169841177?filter=all&sort=time [4 h 46 min 36 seconds]
    He can't believe it and goes mad
    Without even beeing maxed out, for instance no aden soul crystal for more hps and no hardin soul crystal whatsoever on the zaken sword
    more than 72.000 HPs [without even beeing the HP pool maxed out]

    This means when shelter is casted the new ET can generate a protective shield of more than 140.000 hps for the closest ALLIES not party
    They can be even members of the same alliance, and not even the same clan.
    I guess if completely maxed out the protective shield can be more than 200.000 hps

    Well

    GG

    :D
     
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