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Mentoring system

Discussion in '2011 ~ 2017' started by Cheers, Jun 22, 2012.

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  1. Gilby

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    that was clear 8 months ago............
     
  2. sirius

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    innova team: you promise us new site - we did not got this
    you promise us mentor system - we did not got this (we dont have full god chronicle btw this is part of the game)


    result: many players left because the other servers try to keep the players . your promises are like a black hole, we will never know what and how and when.

    solution: give us the answer: when will operate mentor (specific date) and when will oparate the new site (specific date)

    players do not want to hear empty promises, and want to see concrete action. if you are still to be consistently in achieving the intended purpose ... say it once and not doing stupid hopes for everyone. people no longer trust you when you throw that word without covering
     
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  3. Hidrica

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    +over 9000
     
  4. BGFoReVeR

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    i thinik next step is no ppl in core :)
     
  5. Gilby

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    well actually if innova would somehow implement mentor system only way to benefit from it would be buy pa and level your own toon cause face it we have max 1 new player in a month :d
     
  6. MangaWarrioR

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    +10 for that


    question mentoring system have a connection with l2 store ? if we have mentoring system = less consumption from l2 store ? that is the problem?
     
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  7. RapidBlades

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    to be honest the 90% of the ncwest servers for sure never used these programs. mainly just about those players who are in the elite part of the top clans so about those 200 players who actively use the cheats and they try to run their bot trains too. also it is fact, that 75% of the cheaters on the ncwest servers are russian.
    but yes, while these "top clans" on the olympiad on the sieges on the best xp places too, you have a feeling that high the amount of the cheaters. while only this 200 players who actively use these cheats only 2-3% of the total population of a server.

    but about mentoring.
    as it is working now, it is really disappointed mentees always want, that you be online in 24/7 you give the harmony buffs in 24/7, after 78lvl you pwlvl them for free. if you won't do it many of them leave in 1 day, after u get 1 week penalty.

    also the special offer of the ncwest, that they gives gear and different items too for the players. so it will still give higher motivation to them to start there.

    honestly the problem is, that the innova has a bit better anti bot protection, but their service is way worse than the service of the ncwest.

    the ideal partnership deal would be between the innova and ncwest would be if the innova would sell the rights of the frost to the ncwest and not, that the ncwest sells the rights of the lineage 2 eu to the innova.
     
  8. Valkyrie

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    being a prelude player and having a payed acount in old retail servers for 7 years i can quarantee you that for sure 90% of the population in that servers use programs and 99,9% of them used programs at least once. about <<top clans 200 players>> i really dont know the situation right now but when we quit to come to innova top clans with their pets had about 800 active members (i remember before x dissband a rune fight 350 x & friends vs 250 iit & friends.
    before core opens there was daily jokes in hero voice off naia that even elpys had anti-backstab.
    p.s from someone that before god launced left 85 end game character in naia with full epics from a top clan because he got bored of programs.
     
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  9. RapidBlades

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    you had than really bad experience. top clans are another world, many of them got bann under winter, while many of them left cuz their friends got bann. the middle clans in are play legit way and did do it too.

    also i did read, that one of "top" clan member who is cheater too, told, that the gd is the most balanced update ever, because their programs doesnt work as they did work on the pre-gd skills like, he told from now the othell rogue totally can disappear with his new hide skill while the old hide skill was able to detect with their tools. he told the game developers did use some kind of another programing technology while they made the awakened skills.

    and yes it is detect able, since the gd released i really often beat the top clan members those too, what was so powerful before.

    but anyway the top clan players on the innova ru use different kind of cheats in same form as on the ncwest.

    top klans aren't so powerful from now as before. often happen, that legit clans steal the castles from them or kill them in pvp. if the middle clans would have everyday trained pvp players mostly, the top clans would die out. we legits often attack the darkness castle owner top clans and kill them. so those who mostly move in solo or small parties while they are member of a top clan leave their top clans fast, because they get gank all time. also if we know that xy persons are well knew cheaters too, the legit clans doesn't invite them or kick them off somedays later. so these persons mostly one way stay the "quit".
    also if in a top clan play a legit const party and know that xy const party are cheater they simply press party recall. so the top cheaters are really demoralized since the gd. because the legits play out them really easily and while these peoples just did use programs, they hasn't the gamer intelligence.

    so may your numbers are right to the top clans, but to the not top clans it isn't right.
     
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    this in fact is wrong info u got. some programs (won't name them), detect enemies in hide also now, detect enemies from far away also (depending range u select), in oly also so u can see your opponents class.
     
  11. DeepBlue

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    dear members,

    this is not a thread for discussing 3rd party programs or how other servers are run....please stay on topic.

    regards.
     
  12. RapidBlades

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    maybe dunno, i never didn't use none of them. i just know that i can kill those players nowadays more easily as before.


    but anyway deepblue, what is the problem or reason why mean so huge problem for the innova fix its mentor system? i won't ask it when will you make, but it is really interesting me, why you can't make it, what is the reason. also i see you have additional problem i mean the whole innova to import the tauti update too on their servers. maybe 2-3 or max 4 month but might be arrive to the ncwest the next update the glory days.
    so it isn't surprise, that your players are really angry, because soon the innova ru and eu has more than 2 updates disadvantage from the ncwest and 4 updates disadvantage from the nckorea + the patches what the ncwest get often some weeks later too.

    i guess easier than to say your players, that sorry you won't get the mentor system and focus to another updates. because this is the reason why the innova eu & ru lost many players in the last months.
     
  13. DeepBlue

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    how so?

    tauti is being released next week, we are only a matter of weeks behind with release yet that is because we test before we release which avoids major issues like ncwest have had with their auction houses, we also gave players the opportunity to test this new content before it was released..yet anyway this is offtopic and i have requested that people stay on topic here.

    regarding the mentoring delay, it was announced that there are some technical issues that have caused the delay in implementing the fully working system yet the team are working on a way to at least get a partially working system implemented as a workaround whilst they work on the issues. you will all be updated on the progress of this as and when the information becomes available.

    regards.
     
  14. RapidBlades

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    hm, it is strange everywhere where the lineage 2 service isn't from ncsoft are the same issues with mentor system as i know same the problem in indonesia and china, this is what interesting me personally, that what is this problem, what the provider companies aren't able to solve (at least currently and before), but at the ncsoft regions everything work without problem.
     
  15. Gilby

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    what technical issues can last more than 8 months ? c'mon its ridiculous. its not like innova dont have money to resolve that technical issue.
     
  16. zzZzz

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    any approximate date for mentor system?
     
  17. Razzly

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    does innova has only 1 developer here called blinnnnnnaaa or what? there can be seen only bunch of moderators that keep telling same thing thats all.

    if you as company are not sure if you can implement it then don't promise it...

    [​IMG]
     
  18. DeepBlue

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    to clear one matter up, blinnna is not a developer, she is a moderator for the ru and eu forums.

    for everyone, please keep your comments down to constructive questions or feedback and not troll and spam this thread. any posts that are not constructive, are off topic or purely trolling and spamming will be removed.

    regards.
     
  19. randomm

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    so the fact that pplz wanna know on what kind of server they are playing and what is happening with the company (if it exists one cause so far we only see moderators and nothing that prooves this server is hosted by a true company) that hosts the server is trolling? u can't ask pplz to just sit and wait one game feature that should be enabled since 7 months ago. u can't ask pplz to trust innova after they failed over and over again in accomplishing a simple thing (mentor system). the fact they are keep telling they have technical issues is not an excuse anymore.... a technical issue last from few hours to one or maximum 2 days.... 8 months is not a technical issue, is pure incompetence or a total lack of interest. my post can be considered trolling? i think not.. cause everything i wrote is pure truth.
     
  20. lempartus

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    deepblue:

    why not ask for help from professionals ncwest?
    this is pathetic
    very weak excuses
     
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