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Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by NewBeginning, Sep 4, 2012.

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  1. Gilby

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    more specific one party that came from innova ru from which clan and which pt we all know it is so i dont write that :d

    thats bulls*** pa affects owner others doesnt get any advantage of it.

    they came back to ncwest because on innova servers u have to play actualy while on ncwest all u have to do is setup scripted bot and fap fap all day afk :d
     
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  2. RapidBlades

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    gilby i haven't too many info about pa, but i often read "const party lf member with pa". also i did hear from russian friends, that in russia those people doesn't get party invitation very often which ones hasn't pa.
    well why i think, that the pa is unbalanced, that those who has money for pa and additionally for vitality items too will leveling way much faster than those who hasn't, so mostly these persons can control the prices of top items.
    yes available at the ncwest too some xp boost, but if you there xp boost have to pay really high prices for it, also the rune of xp 100% and 200% was available only for 1 week, but on really high price. so the leveling speed at the ncwest is more balanced, just the illegal users was able to get the 99 until, but just those also who used boosts from the l2 store. but many of them got until ban while get the 99 or quit when he get the 99.

    when the innova opened the server/servers mostly the legit players did come to innova server mainly from the naia.
    but nowadays many of these players play on the naia again. i didn't really ask from them the reason, but they did return.

    i just know mainly about some ex teon/naia redsky members, that stayed at the innova.

    mainly here the peoples just talk about, that not so much the bot users, but nobody doesn't talk about the ebayers, as we all know for the ebay doesn't need to be cheater you can farm adena legally too what after the players/clans sells illegally.

    also mainly the cheaters on the ncwest servers from the "top" clans. but kind of "big cheaters" about people often use to talk active in lesser and lesser number, slowly but the ncwest ban them and if some of their const party members get ban often the whole party quit.

    mainly at least on the naia we can speak about 8-10 "top cheater parties" what are actives and mostly the afk groups in different places their groups.
    problem with these peoples, that these are really skilled script maker/users and many of them know very well the lineage 2, while a part of them really rich too.
    might be if once these people would move to here, the frost would be useless against them and their groups.
    against them needed live gms, active live gms.

    if would start again a petition war what started on the teon in spring of 2009 and finished at november of 2009, would result, that most of these top cheater get ban as this did happen some years ago.
    also if the legal lineage 2 users would take time, that in organized form report different bot group would take much better results (because as i told the idiots screaming always on the forum).
     
  3. Inverse

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    previously (on innova russian servers) pa also affected drop rate, that's why people looked for party members with it.
    now it only affects xp, and i never saw any party which woul ask about pa.
     
  4. Gilby

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    fist of all this is europe not russia dont know much about ru off and dont care really.majority of players are europeans some latinos/russians but they are minority here.yes russians likes to cheat best example is afl(afterlife) clan who played with them knows that. didn't saw such thing like "constant pt lf member with pa" maybe u mistaken with "constant pt lf member with brains and two hands" frost blocks like 96% of 3rd soft and is constantly updated.no adena for money sites just some lame guys with keylogs searching for dumbfu***.where was few bots in garden of beasts but banned in a day or two.
     
  5. Tainted

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    if i was to set up a constant party, then me having pa will for sure exclude inviting people who don't. they'll fall behind exp-wise over time.
     
  6. randomm

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    depends.. u can have pa and play 4 hours daily and other pty members can play w/o pa but stay online 8 hours. so they will lvl faster. in your 4 hours online time at lvl's between 85 and 95 u manage to do all daily's and instances and mby... if u have good pty u manage to open farm for like 1 hour. pplz that are more hours online will get way more xp from open farm pty's than u from instances, even with pa. also u have to keep in mind that there are few pty's that have same members now like they had at 85. in time pplz get bored, have rl issues, quit game or change clan. is not only about pa... pa is for pplz that don't have time to play like they did before (job, school, family, etc). ofc u will find also pplz that play 12 hours daily with pa/runes/nevit's and so on but this is just the 99 rush.
     
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    true. pa has nothing to do with drop rate since god came (in h5, freya, gracia drop rate and adena amount both were x2).

    moreover i believe that pa is much better than power shirts or encahnt of destruction as a new way of ncwest "pay2win" path. with pa you will be able to rush 99 faster, but what does it mean? sooner or later everyone will get 99 so what is the different at all? at least for 2 incoming updates (glory days and echo) they dont increase cap lvl limit so 99 will be still max for like 1 year at least
     
  8. RapidBlades

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    well, russia is part of europe:).

    i just told the situations what can happen. yes, at the ncwest servers too the biggest problem mostly with the russian players high part of them illegal users, but we have to say, that exist more legit russian players too who are great players.

    as i told many the innova eu is lucky, that the bad guys at the ncwest and innova ru. might be if players like figgaro, ixronos, nerven etc would appear here, most of top clans here would use cheats also or already would quit.

    //alarion, well the dewr, dear, power shirts are just stuffs what had a chance to get bonuses from them, you had to spend a lot of money to them and watch those who got +15dewr blessed apo wep, jagermeister, chipz, troy, vandaguard, nerven, martelx, oriox, lordsuleiman.
    all of them fail players they are mostly in top clans, but they got owned from their enemies all time.

    i did pvp too against +12dewr blessed wep and i could win. the boost of powershirt are totally really low in 1vs1 too, in mass pvp close to 0.

    but those who use pa get the levels much faster so they can sell first the best stuffs can farm from them the most much.
    so rule the server.

    lets see the ncwest community mostly between 90-95 the hardcore legits around 97. right now on the naia looks like i have to biggest chance to get first the level 98 as maximally legit player.

    i mostly xp in solo, because not really have party who with i would be able to xp in seed of hellfire. with the top clans who has these level partly, i not really xp just with who about i know, that might be they are more less legits.

    as i know the nckorea als doesn't keep too good idea too the innova's pa system they were those who forced them to remove the bonus drop rates.
     
  9. Gilby

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    russia is part of asia
    dont they teach these things in school ? :d
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    innova pa>ncwest "pay2win" system in so many ways also ncwest has nevits 200% exp runes 200% kartia extra pass so its even faster than on innova we have only 50% xp nevits and xp runes.u failed with your propaganda go spread it on other forum.
     
  10. Lirelin

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    russia = asia. only a very little fragment of russia (on the left of ural mountain chain belongs to europe. the other 95% of russia is in asia. o.o
    and what would happen if we didn't have pa here? no lifers playing 15h per day would lvl up faster and rule the server. there's always someone farming items first and rulling the server in one way or another. pa at least gives casual players playing 2-4 hours per day a chance to catch up without that much effort.

    and who do you think would lvl up faster? no lifer (15h per day) without pa? or casual player (4h per day) with pa? i'm sure so-called no lifer would win.

    ncwest, besides 'pay-to-win' items also has exp runes for sale. someone said they are veeeery expensive. fine, but some ppl still buy them. i'd say they have much bigger advantage than innova pa users simply because much less ppl on ncwest can afford the runes.

    the only time i've heard about double drop rates was on private russian l2 servers that were active a few years ago. i'm not sure why you keep returning to that topic.
     
  11. Sproot

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    @rapid

    2 other ppl already answered mostly what i wanted to say. btw you have rune exp which are quite expensive. i'm pretty sure in price of rune for ~~7 days you can get pa for 1 month.

    for me the biggest advantage of this server is that 99% playing legit while on ncwest even if someone doesnt bot for pve (or have his own bots on another characters to make money) they use pvp programs. you never know if you fight vs program or vs player what is kinda sad.
     
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    nothing special for papa sproot. have you already found new healer to your pro "leg0t" cp papa sproot? : )
     
  15. LotuS

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    russia only one country in the world which located in europe and asia at the same time, but most of population lives in europe part of russia
    and if russia is asia.why russia takes part in europian competitions ?
     
  16. Sproot

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    why do we need a new healer? we have 2 good healers
     
  17. Tainted

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    on the contrary.

    here's a map of europe. notice how russia consumes about a third of the european landmass.

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    i know russia stretches all the way across the asian continent, but europe and asia are separated
    by the ural mountains. this separates the western siberian lowlands (on asian soil) from the western
    part of russia (on european soil), which contains such cities as moscow and st. petersburg.

    newsflash; the cold war is over, and russia is now an acknowledged part of europe as it geographically
    should be.

    the more you know. ;)
     
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  18. RapidBlades

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    gilby as i used to told, we are in good situation, that we can change, that which provider better to us. i didn't say to nobody, that go to ncwest and i didn't make promotion, i did simply write down, how do i see the two companies/provider.

    keep in mind also, that those who wants to cheat might be find the way how they cheat through any security system too. you can just stop them with live gms.

    as i used to see (just know the situation of naia) if those about 50-100 players, would stop to play with lineage 2 or something might be the number of the illegal players/characters would decrease on that server about with 90%.

    at 95+ you see quite few character in bot mode, if you go to seal of shilen only one person there is who is using bot program.

    i would repeat to you also the words of cryo the producer of ncwest lineage 2: "might be the lineage 2 became to truly free, but we have to make money".

    so yes, was available in the l2 store power shirt and elemental shirt too, but this was available in russia, taiwan, korea, japan etc too and in russia as i know constantly available.

    yes there is nevit 200% in the ncwest item shop or for a week was available rune of xp 100% and 200% too, but these mostly made for the hardcore or rich playerbase.

    we have minimum 10-20 players who are paying for the game in every month 1-2 thousand euro too, but they aren't able to be heroes.

    these items just can be powerful in the hand of those who really can play the lineage 2, but might be these players would win anyway too.
    also mostly the ceremony of chaos hero on the naia is legit player, who able to destroy the most powerful cheaters too, might be he would rule here too.

    gilby your and some of innova eu players words more often sounds like a powerful hate or discrimination against everyone who plays at any ncsoft servers, you use to know all of them to cheaters, while i know really many players who play the game in legal form maximally.

    you told you have here a party which use pvp cheats/bots why these peoples still aren't banned? i did hear about these peoples about half year ago too, why these peoples here still with the same characters if the frost is so good.

    anyway russia has a huge part in europe too and while its capital in europe too they are europeans. those who lives in the asian part of russia mainly turkic type of peoples like kazakh, uyghur, yakut, tatar tribes.
     
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    turkey has european 1% and 99% asian part also.and israel take part in all europian competitions !!!
    now about the server , is 99% bot free, since mentor system just started now is the time if you want to start because i big mass of old and new players started to lvl up characters from start so will be easier fro you to lvl up.
    you can use your money smart if you are really hardcore player you dont really need to spent even a cent's.
    wellcome to the server and be aware off the trolls!
     
  20. Helaene

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    maybe geographically is in asia, but it's officially european. it's like ceuta and melilla, they are in africa, but they are spanish.
     
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