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Is it true that Lineage is dead, not wort to play, etc.?

Discussion in 'General Discussion: Core' started by andrius3022, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. UgahBugah

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    I don't think the entire server population of Chronos has 1.2k real players. Problem with not having parties are there as well. I gave up on NA after two weeks after returning. Just not enough players, same as here. I only found some Brazillian players willing to group up but most of them don't know any English. Then there is the fact that so many on NC West dualbox or tri box and they have so many bots everywhere... those player's numbers are really inflated.

    Only Naia was advertised as European and probably not anymore, but it was made from left over European servers like Teon, when Innova didn't have L2 license. I don't know how it is now since my server was Chronos but from what people say Naia is really empty. Chronos is not advertised as European, it only has many European players.
     
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  2. SK111

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    I can only say that, since the very beginning, all the greek, german and italian communities landed there and not in here and trust me, even if i live 36 times i won't be able to understand why.
    As for the rest try to say in a party, clan or alliance chat "sup" they will answer to you "******" = oh man in greek so ... and that on chronos which is supposed to be a pure na server. Naia (ru players) is just merging with freya and drumroll there will be a christmas event, the freya one, on july :)
    On chronos there are still new players but as soon they reach lvl 99 they quit, one after the other.
    Where they go after that i really don't know.
     
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  3. UgahBugah

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    I believe one of the reasons it has so many players it's because older NA servers had many European players from the start. From what I remember Teon (EU) wasn't among the first servers that opened and servers like Franz (EU as well iirc) came way later. Because of this many players from Europe started on NA servers initially. I personally started on Bartz (the old one) and most of the p2p period this server was dominated by European clans. After Innova opened Core most of us stayed there. My server got merged into Chronos and I guess that's the story of the other servers that merged into Chronos. Players didn't want to start again from scratch on Core, same as we didn't want to start from scratch on Teon and future European servers.

    If a new European players is starting now in NA I have no idea why they are doing that. I left behind characters and gear and stuff on NA, now devalued since I didn't play for some time, but if I was starting new then no way I'd be tempted to go back there. As for players that leave, I guess they go to those pirate server. Just look how many viewers they have on twitch, it's a bit disappointing.
     
  4. andrius3022

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    Day 34



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    Besides usual dailies finally improved my char gear wise. Got one more immortal sigil. I guess again in Seed of Annihilation.
    Spent 450 million adena (~65% of what I had) to buy Blessed Apocalypse Retributer +300 wind +4 +2 Stage 3 SA (C.Speed + M.crit dmg). It was expensive but kinda worth - after changing to earth attribute my damage doubled on my main. Well, I guess many dailies to come to improve the rest of the gear... Paulina is fading.
    Tried to do some dailies absolutely baffles... Was a rough life.. really really rough life... :(


    Smal tip: Check you Clan Shop, there might be some Supply boxes waiting for you. Each time opened it gives Daily Coins and low chance for 7 days epics. Might be nice boost!! :)



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  5. andrius3022

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    Day 35



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    Dailies, dailies, dailies! And some Freya in between. One thing went wrong, I killed https://l2wiki.com/Dimensional_Vagabond and got a message that I got a key, even though key did not appear in my inventory :(
    But something new happened!! New event! https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/657693/ So I tried to farm as many as possible of carrots and that will be my main focus for next 2 weeks. Either to gamble or just to sell and make some adena (the last one is more likely).
    Don't pass with farm events, they are an amazing way to make adena. Farm and during the nights buy/sell. From my experience I can say during every such even I was making 2-20 billion adena.



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  6. andrius3022

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    I know I am not really active :( But summer is here, I have a bit of work and on top of this, I don't want to stream same daily - how I farm carrots. Talking about carrots, I decided that it is quite unfair to overfarm carrots, and gear up just from that. Let's be honest - farm events are rare and most of the newcomers will have no chance to have an event in their first 2 months of playing. But coming back to the usual post...

    Day 36



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    PAULINA GEAR VANISHED!!! OH NO!
    But as I was mentioning - always select your dual class accordingly to your gear, to save up and whenever you awaken your dual class 1st time you get 30 days Paulina equipment pack again. So, in the end, you have 60 days of gear instead of 30!! :)
    Well, as always did not skip Dimensional Gap and spend the rest of time farming carrots.
    Tried 3 zones - Seed of Annihilation, Isle of Souls and Fairy Settlements. Seemed that Settlements is the best spot for event farm.


    Some people were complaining about Premium account. For old players it seems not reasonable to buy Premium, double XP is not their concern, most of them don't need boxes. They want something valuable for end game, such as Eva's Rune or so.



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  7. UgahBugah

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    I noticed Ertheia doesn't get that 60 days deal.
     
  8. andrius3022

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    Day 37



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    Carrots, carrots and more carrots!! Did some quests and farmed juicy carrots (2birds with 1 shot). Well also tried farming cemetery - amazing spot for feohs, just one drawback is that mobs are not aggressive so need some provoke or something to make proper trains (tyrr or tank). Since it was June 1st, made Antharas instance (don't forget to make it today as well since it is available every month 1st and 15th).
    Killed my 1st https://l2wiki.com/Balok since it is a great way to make pocket money.
    Also, I took my reward of olympiad and ended up farming over 1400 https://l2wiki.com/Mark_of_Battle. Extra 70-100kk!!! :)



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  9. andrius3022

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    Day 38


    Since my PC decided to take a break in the middle of the stream - stream was out of 2 parts :/


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    It was a while for me not streaming because I wanted to avoid farming event to interfere with my experiment results too much.
    But as every day - Dimensional gap and some dailies in open fields to make some xp. adena and few carrots, starting with Seal of Shilen and going to Isle of Souls.


    Once again complains about spoil went up. That people with PA and drop rune can spoil max 5kk per hour solo and for party spots, you need to be with end game gear otherwise it will not work.


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  10. Riuky

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    First of all, gratz on doing this experiment!
    Second, you made me come back again, lets see how can I survive at 95 without buffs, I will get there tomorrow for sure.
    Looking forward for more tips.
    Thanks
     
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  11. DeadZy

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    And that's about the right timing (2 months) where the regular players stop wasting their time!
     
  12. TranpeGG

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    So what's the verdict, L2 is dead or dead?
     
  13. 21Sav

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    Yes, you guessed it.
     
  14. andrius3022

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    Sorry for not making any updates. I mentioned during my last stream I am going for few weeks holidays.
    But I did not stop/quit and in a couple of weeks will be back to occasional adventure.

    Day 39



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    Carrots over, so I can do my instances in peace!
    https://l2wiki.com/Antharas_Nest_(Balthus_Knights)
    https://l2wiki.com/Baylor
    https://l2wiki.com/Dimensional_Rift
    Zaken

    Freya
    https://l2wiki.com/Istina
    and https://l2wiki.com/Seed_of_Annihilation daily quests
    Got once again lucky and got https://l2wiki.com/Feather_Eye_Blade from Freya!!! Hope will be another 200kk like it was with previous Freya's drop :)

    All that took around 2 hours... So need to be as efficient as possible and you can do a lot in a short amount of time! :)



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  15. Fragola

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    @andrius3022 I got good news,
    looks like the NPC buff will be cheaper in Orfen Update
     
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  16. xLeax

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    8 mil insteed of 10? :)
     
  17. {IronV}

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    Server won :p:p
     
  18. UgahBugah

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    Hopefully not offtopic but how much cheaper will be those buffs? It is important because adena is scarce and I doubt that a new player will spend even half of what is now, on buffs. I think even Andrius skipped npc buffs on one of his videos after carrots didn't drop anymore, and he mentioned that it's not profitable anymore without the carrots.

    If a player didn't give up at level 95 where you find the first big milestone, they will probably do it at 99 or further. At 99, without a lot of help from a clan, it is a lot hard to get into doing things, as your gear is now irrelevant. Kartia will give you less relevant xp, almost ten times less in percentage than previous levels. Kamaloka is harder than that. Going back and forth to buy buffs for your 8.000 mobs exalted quest will be costly. Then I see at 100+ dimensional and other new things which are no places for a starter characters. Some people can still have that patience and continue with the game but the gap between them and the already established players is very big. It will be a very very long time before a new player will prove their worth in a group, giving that even at these levels there is still no stable income, only expenses, like shots, runes for skills, sometimes scrolls for xp or rose to not die in one shot.
     
  19. Fragola

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    3kk or x5 R-grade gems
     
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  20. andrius3022

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    Glad to hear about changes and hope many more to come.

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    As previous day, a bunch of daily instances and not much of open field farm :/
    https://l2wiki.com/Baylor, https://l2wiki.com/Balok, https://l2wiki.com/Dimensional_Rift, https://l2wiki.com/Zaken#Cavern of the Pirate Captain (Distant Daydream), https://l2wiki.com/Freya, 3x https://l2wiki.com/Steam_Corridor.
    Sadly https://l2wiki.com/Steam_Corridor showed extremely bad results with drops. Besides getting 3x https://l2wiki.com/Kechi#Armed drops we absolutely worthless.. 3x EAR :(
    Well better luck next time!



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